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Why are some hating on Nuss so badly? From years of doing the Tecmo Weave and to my highly trained eye, he was the real force behind UW's offense...when I read that Nick Saban had hired him after the Alamo Bowl, my stomach sank and lo and behold, Sloppy Steve and Frosted Tips Kiesau ate meatloaf, took metamucil, and proceeded to shit the bed thrice times over in 2012. Yeah we lost Polk, Kearse, Aguilar, and Kelemete but something was off more than that. Meanwhile, Nuss goes to Alabama and starts lighting it up. Watching his offense against the supposedly nasty Notre Dame D was a thing of beauty and his 99 yard TD play call in the Iron Bowl was perfectly timed.
Yeah yeah, we've been burnt by an OC who became head coach way too early but let's not necessarily fight the last war (OC Sarkisian sucked ergo Nuss will suck) when from what I've heard, Nuss and Sloppy Steve are not all that alike.
One thing is clear, if Woodtarded fucks this up, he is as good as gone in a few years. If Petersen says no and he goes with Nuss and it doesn't work out (better chance than Sloppy Steve IMHO), Woodtarded will be blamed for not having a big enough sack to speak with existing head coaches to whom he has no connection (Tim DeRuyter, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, Craigh Bohl, Pete Lembo, etc etc).
But in going back to Nuss, doesn't Saban hiring him away from Washington mean something? And then if Woodward hires him, wouldn't that mean Saban strongly recommended him? I don't know about you guys but if Nick Saban highly recommends one of his top assistants for Washington's head coaching job, it might as well be coming from Don James himself.
Why are some hating on Nuss so badly? From years of doing the Tecmo Weave and to my highly trained eye, he was the real force behind UW's offense...when I read that Nick Saban had hired him after the Alamo Bowl, my stomach sank and lo and behold, Sloppy Steve and Frosted Tips Kiesau ate meatloaf, took metamucil, and proceeded to shit the bed thrice times over in 2012. Yeah we lost Polk, Kearse, Aguilar, and Kelemete but something was off more than that. Meanwhile, Nuss goes to Alabama and starts lighting it up. Watching his offense against the supposedly nasty Notre Dame D was a thing of beauty and his 99 yard TD play call in the Iron Bowl was perfectly timed.
Yeah yeah, we've been burnt by an OC who became head coach way too early but let's not necessarily fight the last war (OC Sarkisian sucked ergo Nuss will suck) when from what I've heard, Nuss and Sloppy Steve are not all that alike.
One thing is clear, if Woodtarded fucks this up, he is as good as gone in a few years. If Petersen says no and he goes with Nuss and it doesn't work out (better chance than Sloppy Steve IMHO), Woodtarded will be blamed for not having a big enough sack to speak with existing head coaches to whom he has no connection (Tim DeRuyter, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, Craigh Bohl, Pete Lembo, etc etc).
But in going back to Nuss, doesn't Saban hiring him away from Washington mean something? And then if Woodward hires him, wouldn't that mean Saban strongly recommended him? I don't know about you guys but if Nick Saban highly recommends one of his top assistants for Washington's head coaching job, it might as well be coming from Don James himself.
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HTH
oh..........and Chip Kelly supposedly groomed Helfrich for Oregon. In less than a year we find ourself in a December bowl game. Recommendations from head coaches means dick. Saban is doing what any other head coach would do for his offensive coordinator.
It's not about Nussmeier (who could turn out awesome, who knows?), it's about the clueless hiring processes we continue to use.
Hope is not a fucking strategy.
As for his time at UW our offense was average in 2009, shitty in 2010 and really good in 2011.
He leaves UW and our offense goes to shitty in 2012 and really good in 2013.
It wasn't like we had a great offense when he was here then immediately fell off a cliff when he left.
As for your point about a Saban assistant? How many Saban former assistants have done anything as a head coach vs how many have failed?
Sarkisian came from Carroll's staff who at that time was the best program in the nation.
You aren't the girl that gets beat up by her boyfriend. You're the girl that fucks a guy with girlfriend, starts dating him and gets mad when he cheats on you.
I've never met Nuss but a Big Wallet Booster friend has (and who also met Sarkisian and thought he was a fucking joke) and he said he was the stud of the offensive staff rather than Sloppy Steve. He also said that Joel Thomas for sure left because he didn't like Sloppy Steve and same for Nuss on top of Sloppy Steve hogging all of the credit for Jake Locker being drafted #8 and the 2011 offense doing so well with a sub-par OL and a new QB.
I mentioned all of this on Doogman.com when trying to convince everyone that Sloppy Steve was a fucking joke but was shouted down for highlighting Nuss (and Thomas) wanting to get far away from the douche-bag (and I'm sure Nuss realized how bad of a defensive staff Sarkisian had hired, particularly Holt, Nantarded, and "Meats").
Frankly, my only concern is that Nuss doesn't have enough Dawg in him, enough "I'm a bad motherfucker and I'm going to hurt you for the next 60 minutes". From what I've gathered, he has a great football mind and his offenses executed well in spite of the program environment Sloppy created rather than because of it.
BRB, JO (sneak it in before my wife comes to bed)
If you can't convince a head coach to come here with all that then you fucking suck at your job. There is no way around that.
I think Nuss will do better than Sark but Sark was better than Ty. That's not the standard the standard should be competing for Rose Bowls and with Nuss I don't see that happening.
Funny thing is that progression is getting better. Barely...but better. If that keeps up then by 2025 we might have a championship coach.
SEC teams don't hire coordinators as HC's (anymore, see below) AND NEITHER SHOULD WE!
I'd feel more comfortable with Petersen or DeRuyter but Nuss did coordinate our offense for 3 years.
In 2009 under Nuss the Huskies ranked 69th(26.1), had 375.5 yards(5.7)
In 2010 under Nuss the Huskies ranked 96th(21.8 PPG), had 362.5 yards(5.5 YPA)
In 2011 under Nuss the Huskies ranked 25th(33.4 PPG), had 409.8 yards(6.2 YPA)
So Nuss leaves
In 2012 under a new OC the Huskies ranked 90th(24.0 PPG), had 355.2 yards(5.1 YPA)
In 2013 the Huskies ranked 18th(38.5 PPG), had 514.5 yards(6.5 YPA)
Now let's go to Alabama
in 2009 pre Nuss the Crimson Tide ranked 22nd(32.1 PPG), had 403 yards(6.0 YPA)
in 2010 pre Nuss the Crimson Tide ranked 18th(35.7 PPG), had 444.1 yards(7.0 YPA)
In 2011 pre Nuss the Crimson Tide ranked 20th(34.8 PPG), had 429.5 yards(6.5 YPA)
Now Nuss arrives
In 2012 Crimson Tide ranked 12th(38.7 PPG), had 445.5 yards(6.9 YPA)
In 2013 Crimson Tide ranked 16th(38.8 PPG), had 448.9 yards(7.1 YPA)
You really can't tell the difference between the Nuss years and the non Nuss years at UW as like the Sark tenure they were all over the place.
At Alabama there appears to be slight improvement but that is mostly due to them having an NFL QB in McCaron which in 2009-2010 they didn't have and in 2011 McCaron was in his first year starting.