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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The head of Washington State Transportation in the 60's when the 5 was completed was a regular at our house at the parent's bridge club. The state wanted to put the 5 through Yelm and avoid the bottle neck with a spur to Tacoma and Seattle. Downtown merchants put an end to it. The two lanes downtown was by design to encourage people to drive through town and spend money

    We were transitioning from the 99 that went through every town to these new freeway things and every town freaked out about it

    Same thing more recently up in Sequim. All the pro business nutcases said the bypass would kill the downtown. But reality is, downtown is better than ever and there's been a shit ton of jobs added from new businesses and expansion of existing business there.

    Too many people think about route 66 and forget it went through shitholes like Oklahoma and the middle of nowhere in New Mexico and Arizona.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    2001400ex said:

    The head of Washington State Transportation in the 60's when the 5 was completed was a regular at our house at the parent's bridge club. The state wanted to put the 5 through Yelm and avoid the bottle neck with a spur to Tacoma and Seattle. Downtown merchants put an end to it. The two lanes downtown was by design to encourage people to drive through town and spend money

    We were transitioning from the 99 that went through every town to these new freeway things and every town freaked out about it

    Same thing more recently up in Sequim. All the pro business nutcases said the bypass would kill the downtown. But reality is, downtown is better than ever and there's been a shit ton of jobs added from new businesses and expansion of existing business there.

    Too many people think about route 66 and forget it went through shitholes like Oklahoma and the middle of nowhere in New Mexico and Arizona.
    It's funny that it was never the modern freeway that these brick and mortals should have been worried about. They should have been worried about the technological freeway that spawned Amazon.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,284 Standard Supporter
    Should have built the RH Thompson Freeway
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,284 Standard Supporter
    I've never understood this. When I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), the population hovered around 500,000. Now with Amazon tech dorks, other tech dorks, and medical research companies, it's around 660,000 and that's conservative. Other than a train to the airport and now UW, there's no new infrastructure that actually helps. Everyone will bike (weather is shit or at best questionable9-10 months per year) or take a metro bus like magic. No, they won't. Now they're taking away I 90 lanes for trains. Genius.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,693
    edited April 2018
    Trains are okay because non-poor people will take them.

    Buses became a symbol of the ghetto folk for too long to change.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    I've never understood this. When I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), the population hovered around 500,000. Now with Amazon tech dorks, other tech dorks, and medical research companies, it's around 660,000 and that's conservative. Other than a train to the airport and now UW, there's no new infrastructure that actually helps. Everyone will bike (weather is shit or at best questionable9-10 months per year) or take a metro bus like magic. No, they won't. Now they're taking away I 90 lanes for trains. Genius.

    But How is Seattle a shit City to live in?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    I've never understood this. When I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), the population hovered around 500,000. Now with Amazon tech dorks, other tech dorks, and medical research companies, it's around 660,000 and that's conservative. Other than a train to the airport and now UW, there's no new infrastructure that actually helps. Everyone will bike (weather is shit or at best questionable9-10 months per year) or take a metro bus like magic. No, they won't. Now they're taking away I 90 lanes for trains. Genius.

    But How is Seattle a shit City to live in?
    No one wants to live in Seattle. It’s too crowded and expensive.

    #CoogEcon
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    salemcoog said:

    I've never understood this. When I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), the population hovered around 500,000. Now with Amazon tech dorks, other tech dorks, and medical research companies, it's around 660,000 and that's conservative. Other than a train to the airport and now UW, there's no new infrastructure that actually helps. Everyone will bike (weather is shit or at best questionable9-10 months per year) or take a metro bus like magic. No, they won't. Now they're taking away I 90 lanes for trains. Genius.

    But How is Seattle a shit City to live in?
    Mooooooooove!
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,185 Founders Club

    Trains are okay because non-poor people will take them.

    Buses became a symbol of the ghetto folk for too long to change.

    What about a Starbucks fleet of busses earmarked for the high tech industry
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,812 Standard Supporter
    Liberal planning is like putting the condom on when your done banging.