Shocking news is shocking

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

dflea said:

RaceBannon said:

Here's the winning platform

Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

DO IT

You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.

They already are

Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

Stay tuned

Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.

This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.

Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

Conservatives won't go for that.

That's not what Australia did. Gun ownership is higher now than it was prior to the gun control in the late 90s. And the number of deaths from guns is much lower that prior.

HTH

They never had much of a problem in the first place. Some societies don't kill each other much.

If you check the stats here we have millions more guns in circulation and our homicide rate dropped to it's lowest in 50 years. But you don't mention actual facts.

Sledog said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

RaceBannon said:

dflea said:

RaceBannon said:

Here's the winning platform

Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

DO IT

You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.

They already are

Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

Stay tuned

Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.

This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.

Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

Conservatives won't go for that.

That's not what Australia did. Gun ownership is higher now than it was prior to the gun control in the late 90s. And the number of deaths from guns is much lower that prior.

HTH

They never had much of a problem in the first place. Some societies don't kill each other much.

If you check the stats here we have millions more guns in circulation and our homicide rate dropped to it's lowest in 50 years. But you don't mention actual facts.

If you cut out Chicago and a few other liberal ruled cities with strict gun laws our firearm murder rate in the world drops down toward the bottom.

Sledog said:

I'll make this easy for Hondo.