Favorite Jam Band?
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Sven and the Harvey Road All-Stars
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Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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Depends on the era of "jam" band. The neo-hippy ones - i.e., Phish, Widespread Panic, Stingcheese, etc. - are generally shit. The Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers were legit and great bands. The difference between great and shit as it relates to jam bands is could they write good fucking songs or not. Both the Allman Brothers and Dead were still capable of writing terrific 3 to 5 min tracks that weren't just senseless, self indulgent noodling. The modern era of jam bands...not so much.RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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Back in the day you'd go to the concert to get the jam. Led Zeppelin wrote pop metal songs of an AM radio length and then you could hear Jimmy solo and Bonham solo live
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And then in later 70's albums Zepp went full self indulgent 8 minute song leading to punk
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Exactly. Led Zeppelin could Jam with the best of them in concert. Same with Neil Young. 16:00 of Cowgirl in the Sand is where it's at.RaceBannon said:Back in the day you'd go to the concert to get the jam. Led Zeppelin wrote pop metal songs of an AM radio length and then you could hear Jimmy solo and Bonham solo live
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The Allman Brothers and The Black Crowes.
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For a kid like me who had always struggle to like the newer bands, the Black Crowes were a god send in the 90s. They were the perfect blend of Stones, Faces, Skin-ard, all rolled up into one.Swaye said:The Allman Brothers and The Black Crowes.
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Yeah I loved 'em for just good time rock and roll.YellowSnow said:
For a kid like me who had always struggle to like the newer bands, the Black Crowes were a god send in the 90s. They were the perfect blend of Stones, Faces, Skin-ard, all rolled up into one.Swaye said:The Allman Brothers and The Black Crowes.
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I like one live version of Crazy Game of Poker
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You got exactly what current jam bands I was talking about.YellowSnow said:
Depends on the era of "jam" band. The neo-hippy ones - i.e., Phish, Widespread Panic, Stingcheese, etc. - are generally shit. The Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers were legit and great bands. The difference between great and shit as it relates to jam bands is could they write good fucking songs or not. Both the Allman Brothers and Dead were still capable of writing terrific 3 to 5 min tracks that weren't just senseless, self indulgent noodling. The modern era of jam bands...not so much.RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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RoadDawg55 said:
You got exactly what current jam bands I was talking about.YellowSnow said:
Depends on the era of "jam" band. The neo-hippy ones - i.e., Phish, Widespread Panic, Stingcheese, etc. - are generally shit. The Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers were legit and great bands. The difference between great and shit as it relates to jam bands is could they write good fucking songs or not. Both the Allman Brothers and Dead were still capable of writing terrific 3 to 5 min tracks that weren't just senseless, self indulgent noodling. The modern era of jam bands...not so much.RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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I wish someone would Free Harv so we could bro out about the Grateful Dead.pawz said:Sven and the Harvey Road All-Stars
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Yes - but not sure if they were a jam band or most of their songs were just 8+ minutes long or roundabout that
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I like to take a band purposed for live performance and criticize them for not writing good radio tracks. I do that.YellowSnow said:
Depends on the era of "jam" band. The neo-hippy ones - i.e., Phish, Widespread Panic, Stingcheese, etc. - are generally shit. The Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers were legit and great bands. The difference between great and shit as it relates to jam bands is could they write good fucking songs or not. Both the Allman Brothers and Dead were still capable of writing terrific 3 to 5 min tracks that weren't just senseless, self indulgent noodling. The modern era of jam bands...not so much.RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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You prefer Gagaku?RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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I like to say jam bands that were both (a) great at writing radio friendly songs AND (b) a great live show are better than jam bands that suck at songwriting. I like to do that.Dardanus said:
I like to take a band purposed for live performance and criticize them for not writing good radio tracks. I do that.YellowSnow said:
Depends on the era of "jam" band. The neo-hippy ones - i.e., Phish, Widespread Panic, Stingcheese, etc. - are generally shit. The Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers were legit and great bands. The difference between great and shit as it relates to jam bands is could they write good fucking songs or not. Both the Allman Brothers and Dead were still capable of writing terrific 3 to 5 min tracks that weren't just senseless, self indulgent noodling. The modern era of jam bands...not so much.RoadDawg55 said:Jam bands are all shit. Learn how to write a real song. Talent in music is mostly irrelevant. Nobody gives a shit about your 5 min bongo solo.
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Pearl.
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Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that. -
Defending the OG Jam bands while not being into the newer ones in a jam band thread is sideswiping? I don't follow.Dardanus said:Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that. -
The Allman Brothers and it's not close.
I don't like jam bands as a rule. The dead trigger my narcolepsy. The Allmans were tight and talented as fuck though and never bore me. -
That's obvious.YellowSnow said:
I don't follow.Dardanus said:Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that.
Grading a jam band by its number of chart-toppers is like judging an AH-64 by its air-to-air ability. Sure, some have sidewinders, and that's great, but the main purpose is to destroy the enemy on the ground. -
Christ Gallipoli, you're dense on this topic. I never said chart toppers. You think the Grateful Dead, the greatest of all jam bands, had a bunch of chart toppers? They had one top 20 single in the 80s and that was it. But they were great songwriters none the less, something a band like Phish is not.Dardanus said:
That's obvious.YellowSnow said:
I don't follow.Dardanus said:Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that.
Grading a jam band by its number of chart-toppers is like judging an AH-64 by its air-to-air ability. Sure, some have sidewinders, and that's great, but the main purpose is to destroy the enemy on the ground.
I'll tell you what - if you play your cards right I'll let you come over and flip over Mountain Jam on the turntable halfway through 32 mins. And you can get me a beer out of the fridge well you're at it. -
I guess it depends on what your tastes are ... I’m personally a big fan of good musicianship
I’m a big fan of a band that can play for 10+ minutes and you aren’t waiting to go to the next song and wanting to cue up Dave Chapelle’s Wrap It Up skit
I definitely enjoy listening to DMB and The Central Park Album has some pretty good longer takes that I enjoy listening to and is a good proxy to seeing them in concert.
I haven’t seen them in concert but I can definitely see myself enjoying a strong 10-15 jam from Chicago with the different instrumentals being focused.
For anybody that hasn’t seen them live Id put the Zac Brown Band in that category. Their last tour had a version of the Allman Bros Whipping Post that was strong. They also were doing a regular dueling guitars last year that was strong. Overall, they are strong players that you can jam out to. -
I've seen Zac brown band
Was pretty fun -
YellowSnow said:
Christ Gallipoli, you're dense on this topic. I never said chart toppers. You think the Grateful Dead, the greatest of all jam bands, had a bunch of chart toppers? They had one top 20 single in the 80s and that was it. But they were great songwriters none the less, something a band like Phish is not.Dardanus said:
That's obvious.YellowSnow said:
I don't follow.Dardanus said:Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that.
Grading a jam band by its number of chart-toppers is like judging an AH-64 by its air-to-air ability. Sure, some have sidewinders, and that's great, but the main purpose is to destroy the enemy on the ground.
I'll tell you what - if you play your cards right I'll let you come over and flip over Mountain Jam on the turntable halfway through 32 mins. And you can get me a beer out of the fridge well you're at it.
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Ram Jam???
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Who knew that a forum for music would create a new bored feud?
Yellowsnow vs. Dardanus
FWIW, I have the attack helicopter in this one. I am also known for limited capacity. -
Limited capacity indeed. ISAFNRC.Swaye said:Who knew that a forum for music would create a new bored feud?
Yellowsnow vs. Dardanus
FWIW, I have the attack helicopter in this one. I am also known for limited capacity.
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Well, I gotta give a chin for the effort and for being a fellow vinyl guy. Looks like you just might be qualified to be my apprentice record flipper, but please no 3M products on the grooves.Dardanus said:YellowSnow said:
Christ Gallipoli, you're dense on this topic. I never said chart toppers. You think the Grateful Dead, the greatest of all jam bands, had a bunch of chart toppers? They had one top 20 single in the 80s and that was it. But they were great songwriters none the less, something a band like Phish is not.Dardanus said:
That's obvious.YellowSnow said:
I don't follow.Dardanus said:Predictably, Yellow Snow is trying to sideswipe an otherwise lukewarm thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.
At least Race had a solid take. Plus Swaye came with a positive contribution, even with his limited capacity. God bless him for that.
Grading a jam band by its number of chart-toppers is like judging an AH-64 by its air-to-air ability. Sure, some have sidewinders, and that's great, but the main purpose is to destroy the enemy on the ground.
I'll tell you what - if you play your cards right I'll let you come over and flip over Mountain Jam on the turntable halfway through 32 mins. And you can get me a beer out of the fridge well you're at it.
(Vanilla won't let me poast images)
I'll tell you what @Dardanus - I'm always open to have my mind be changed and like any of us, my musical palate has evolved over time. Give me your top pick for a live album by any jam band in the Top 30 years and I will have a detailed listen.
