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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    It's interesting that 50, 60 years ago way fewer people got bachelor's. We're talking about ten percent give or take. Now it's just a business in many ways instead of a public good.

    Agreed. Too many people from loser families have been convinced they need to go to college to complete their lives.

    The truth is a degree in Sports Management from Central Washington University is just a waste of time, and the opportunity cost of driving the street sweeper for the city for four more years will never be realized.

    Let people like me and my kids worry about higher ed. The rest of you should just get the fuck to work.
    We're basically saying the same thing although I'm a softy and don't go the full Creepy dick route. Our Cuntry needs to do a better jerb of sorting kids in HS into who is college material and who should learn a trade. Welders, for example, can earn a six figure income and while that is skilled labor, its doesn't require 4 year degree in ethnic studies.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    Certainly the cost of education has escalated....but let's not discount the lack of personal responsibility of the millennials/millennials parents for lusting over bachelors degrees from elite public and private institutions.

    Nothing wrong with a couple years at a community college getting the basics out of the way dirt cheap and then moving to a four-year.

    I weep virtually no tears and give no fucks over student debt loads.

    That said, Jake Browning sucks and college administrators should be forced to live on half their salary.

    Yes, there is. CC is for losers who couldn't get their shit together in high school, which isn't really that hard to do. That tendency tends to follow you through life. I know 25 people who went the CC route; 24 of them wasted their time and should have just gone into a trade. And that's the population with which you'll be rubbing intellectual elbows for your first two years+. Sounds like a great plan. These are the people who continue saying "I seen that," well into their 30s and beyond.

    No thanks. Creepy's kids are smart, and thus attend PRIVATE school all four years with other smart people. That's what makes you smart; not the author of the text book. Plus, it ups the odds that my grandcreepys will be smart, since that's the pool they'll likely draw from.

    You get what you pay for.
    I disagree on the CC route. I went to a University for four years, but many of my friends went with the CC route, then ended up getting masters degrees. Unless you live below the poverty line, or are a minority, the number of scholarships available has shrunk considerably. In Oregon you can still qualify for the Dean's Scholarship, but that only pays about 25% of your tuition. Responsible poor students in lower middle class families can take the CC route for two years and get the undergrad done on the cheap while also working a job, and saving it for some of the tuition costs later at the University. It's probable that he/she may still owe some debt, but $10-$15k in school debt is manageable, while $50-$60k in school debt isn't for many.

    You worked your ass off and got to where you can send your kids to private school. Props to you on that. Unfortunately, there are many people that aren't has successful as you, and their kids have to suffer some of the burden. The CC route is a way for them to achieve a diploma at a lower cost.
    FTFY.

    I started my tirade by making clear that CC is for losers. Being the kid of a poor family makes you a loser, unless you opt out. My siblings and I opted out. 85% of my cousins did not. Too bad for them.

    CC is fine. But the talent pool you'll be with for 2 years (half your undergraduate years) will be significantly more shallow than even my alma mater, WSU, which is, as I've stated before, a retard factory.

    It's a compromise.

    Again, you get what you pay for. That a BMW drives better than a Ford Taurus is indisputable. But, yes, the Taurus is cheaper ... much, much cheaper. Cheaper to buy, and cheaper to live with. But the drive sucks ass.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2018
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    English majors usually become language arts teachers. So not a lot of money, but killer benefits.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    Well, once you know the Engrish, any overhead job at any company. HR, Comms, Corporate Affairs, etc. My sister was an English Lit kid and now makes more bank than the Creep (much to his chagrin) at an executive consulting firm in Nueva York. She works for Korn Ferry.

    She also could have gone to law school like her brother, or biz school or whatever. Alas, she did not, and likely won't, but could. That's the important part: she could.

    Even without that, she could be doing a lot of other things besides consulting, and of course she cannot do a lot of things without going back to school ... just like most people. She won't be designing a bridge or running the derivatives desk at Goldman any time soon.

    But she's a great writer, she can critically think her way out of at least a wet paper bag, and she's informed about the world in which she lives. She's also able to make a cogent poont. She's educated. She's hireable; always has been. It's not that complicated. That still matters, despite what the rednecks tell you.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    English majors usually become language arts teachers. So not a lot of money, but killer benefits.
    For their students in some cases I s'pose.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    Well, once you know the Engrish, any overhead job at any company. HR, Comms, Corporate Affairs, etc. My sister was an English Lit kid and now makes more bank than the Creep (much to his chagrin) at an executive consulting firm in Nueva York. She works for Korn Ferry.

    She also could have gone to law school like her brother, or biz school or whatever. Alas, she did not, and likely won't, but could. That's the important part: she could.

    Even without that, she could be doing a lot of other things besides consulting, and of course she cannot do a lot of things without going back to school ... just like most people. She won't be designing a bridge or running the derivatives desk at Goldman any time soon.

    But she's a great writer, she can critically think her way out of at least a wet paper bag, and she's informed about the world in which she lives. She's also able to make a cogent poont. She's educated. She's hireable; always has been. It's not that complicated. That still matters, despite what the rednecks tell you.
    YKW
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    Well, once you know the Engrish, any overhead job at any company. HR, Comms, Corporate Affairs, etc. My sister was an English Lit kid and now makes more bank than the Creep (much to his chagrin) at an executive consulting firm in Nueva York. She works for Korn Ferry.

    She also could have gone to law school like her brother, or biz school or whatever. Alas, she did not, and likely won't, but could. That's the important part: she could.

    Even without that, she could be doing a lot of other things besides consulting, and of course she cannot do a lot of things without going back to school ... just like most people. She won't be designing a bridge or running the derivatives desk at Goldman any time soon.

    But she's a great writer, she can critically think her way out of at least a wet paper bag, and she's informed about the world in which she lives. She's also able to make a cogent poont. She's educated. She's hireable; always has been. It's not that complicated. That still matters, despite what the rednecks tell you.
    YKW
    Very good comeback, but not my sister. Even the creep has standards.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Vocational, Professional, Communications,Business Services and Teaching degrees.


    Everything else needs to GTFO!!! If you wanna be a philosophy major, due it on your own time and dime. No grants or loans for that shit.

    Spoken like a proud graduate of an agriculture school pretending to be an institution of higher learning.

    I take it your sister has the communications degree. Here's some insight from the Creep: Comms degrees are for kids who couldn't handle the reading to be an English major. True story. That's why UW got rid of their Comms department years ago; it was an academic embarrassment. Although there's a rumor going around they re-opened it, now that they have so much money to spend.
    What money is there in being a fucking Engrish major????
    Well, once you know the Engrish, any overhead job at any company. HR, Comms, Corporate Affairs, etc. My sister was an English Lit kid and now makes more bank than the Creep (much to his chagrin) at an executive consulting firm in Nueva York. She works for Korn Ferry.

    She also could have gone to law school like her brother, or biz school or whatever. Alas, she did not, and likely won't, but could. That's the important part: she could.

    Even without that, she could be doing a lot of other things besides consulting, and of course she cannot do a lot of things without going back to school ... just like most people. She won't be designing a bridge or running the derivatives desk at Goldman any time soon.

    But she's a great writer, she can critically think her way out of at least a wet paper bag, and she's informed about the world in which she lives. She's also able to make a cogent poont. She's educated. She's hireable; always has been. It's not that complicated. That still matters, despite what the rednecks tell you.
    This is similar to what I say in a jerb interview when my liberal arts background comes up- i.e., I tell them I can read and write skrong and complete tasks. I'm smart, not dumb like everyone says. And I want respect.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Good post.






    NOW FUCKING LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    People forget that many universities have endowments that would allow free tuition without the feds paying for it or the student going into debt

    If that is aimed at me, I don't recall saying "many", but they are out there. I have two kids attending two separate such places.

    Of course, we're full pay, so what do I know?

    You all sound poor.
    Why the fuck would I aim anything at you?

    Almost all universities have massive endowments where the INTEREST would cover the cost of a student education.

    Instead they blow that money on uneducated general contractors so we can smoke weed and talk shit like high school dropouts
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited March 2018

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    I actually *live* the million dollar listing shows IRL .
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    I actually *live* the million dollar listing shows IRL .
    Anyone can walk through open houses on Sunday. Cool story bro.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    Bring back the Pod. There was good hawt talk about getting nice real estate on the cheap in Temecula and the I.E.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    Bring back the Pod. There was good hawt talk about getting nice real estate on the cheap in Temecula and the I.E.
    Unfortunately the do gooders in Sacramento pulled the plug on most foreclosures for now.

    Lets help people keep their homes. Sure why not just forget about the speculators and families looking for cheap homes

    Oddly enough many of the folks who lost their house the first time also went into default the second time after the intervention.

    There is a lot of undervalued housing stock hidden from the market to prop up the latest bubble we are in
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    People forget that many universities have endowments that would allow free tuition without the feds paying for it or the student going into debt

    If that is aimed at me, I don't recall saying "many", but they are out there. I have two kids attending two separate such places.

    Of course, we're full pay, so what do I know?

    You all sound poor.
    Why the fuck would I aim anything at you?

    Almost all universities have massive endowments where the INTEREST would cover the cost of a student education.

    Instead they blow that money on uneducated general contractors so we can smoke weed and talk shit like high school dropouts
    Well, I'm not sure I agree with the first part, but I agree with the second part.

    And if we're going to bag on blow, general contractors and weed, then I'm out!!!!!!!!!!!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    I actually *live* the million dollar listing shows IRL .
    You need to contact BRAVO television


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    Asians ....
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    whlinder said:

    pawz said:


    Going full circle, the article is suggesting if people are forced to spend their expendable-dollar on debt, they won't spend it in the economy - thus no economic growth.

    It's not just spending expendable dollars on debt, it's spending expendable dollars on education instead of other consumer goods (or savings). I'm going to have to take {some large number, but my starting point is 50K/year} out of what I spend on fun shit and divert it to some college 5 years from now. College Administrator Welfare is not really the most efficient use of that money and it sure as fuck doesn't make me happy like hookers and blow do.
    deserves a double chin
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    While I do agree the cost of college has escalated to a point of being fucktarded. (I paid $3,500 a year in the late 90s, good luck finding that now).

    Most if the rest of your post is idiotic and something a poor uneducated person thinks. First, how the fuck is there a monopoly?

    Then this is the unemployment rate, what group has the lowest unemployment? Is it the high school drop outs? Or the college educated folk? You can rail on liberal arts degrees but it looks like they have jobs.

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    Nobody is surprised that a) you don't understand basic, fundamental microeconomic concepts, and b) you're parroting the establishment line to keep people enslaved by debt.


    #aclockworkshill
    Ironic POTD. It's awesome watching someone ignore basic facts and tout the "liberal arts degree" rallying cry, then try to call someone else out for being a parrot.

    What about personal responsibility? If you want to go to Gonzaga and pay $50k a year and are too stupid to find scholarships, then you should be riddled with debt your whole life.
    Run along and let the grown-ups talk. You're in over your head, son.
    When you present a grown up argument, I'll recognize that. Until then you are a right wing parrot.
    sarksure.gif
    another perfect example why nobody likes you.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    Sadly, there's not a sliver of hyperbole in any of that.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    2001400ex said:

    On House Hunters last night a couple of Asian doctors were buying their first house and wondered if they should buy for themselves or get a income property to pay off student roans.

    They got the house for themselves. CSB

    House hunters is so real life. Lemme guess, they make $45k a year each and can afford a $3.2 million vacation home in Costa Rica.
    Fuck off

    House Hunters is must see TV
    They should make a spin off about "easy" house hunting. So many of us have PTSD about overpaying for shitty little houses built during the Coolidge administration.
    They go around the country. As has been stated here before, if you live where no one wants to live you can get a 3500 sf pool house for 250K

    In Seattle or other coastal areas you will get that "charming" 900 sf craftsman for 600K with lots of opportunity to "put your own stamp on it"


    I prefer the million dollar listing shows to the poor people stuck in Kansas City
    Bring back the Pod. There was good hawt talk about getting nice real estate on the cheap in Temecula and the I.E.
    Unfortunately the do gooders in Sacramento pulled the plug on most foreclosures for now.

    Lets help people keep their homes. Sure why not just forget about the speculators and families looking for cheap homes

    Oddly enough many of the folks who lost their house the first time also went into default the second time after the intervention.

    There is a lot of undervalued housing stock hidden from the market to prop up the latest bubble we are in
    This has been my platform for a long time: like higher ed and exotic travel, home ownership is not for everyone, and we fucked up when we perverted the American dream with the idea that everyone gets a home. Doesn't work that way.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited March 2018
    2001400ex said:

    While I do agree the cost of college has escalated to a point of being fucktarded. (I paid $3,500 a year in the late 90s, good luck finding that now).

    Most if the rest of my post is idiotic and something a poor uneducated person thinks. g">

    No you didn’t. Your Dad did.