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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Nice push off
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Was it not?

    Obviously the defender got off balance ... but no way he goes down like that unless he gets some help in getting off balance to that degree.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    Looks to me like the defender tripped over his own feet.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,141
    Tequilla said:

    Nice push off

    Lol. No
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,103
    Tequilla said:

    Was it not?

    Obviously the defender got off balance ... but no way he goes down like that unless he gets some help in getting off balance to that degree.

    no, bruh.

    Marginal contact with the shoulder. No armbar. Dude just tripped on his own shit.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club
    White guys also obsess over traveling calls at the IM

    I'm not saying there is anything wrong with white guys so don't twist
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,638 Founders Club
    At least the guy wasn't white. Like we? need more video evidence of our? weak ankles.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    1) that was far from the filthiest move I’ve ever seen ... in fact it’s way more common than not

    2) if you look at that angle Harden gets that contact Johnson’s in the middle of his slide ... he’s not off balance leading into it and looks like a baby fawn afterwards as his feet are massively messed up

    3) that being said, Johnson should be clowned for going down like that on that move

    The most comparable move/action I can think of to that was Jordan’s shot on Russell in the 98 Finals. In both cases, give Jordan/Harden massive credit for being able to have the body control to stop on a dime and use a little bit of arm action to discard the defender. Nobody looks at the Jordan play and says that Russell got clowned.

    And I guess that’s my point, Harden’s clearly got tremendous skills and that’s a really tough move to stop as a defender. But that move doesn’t fuck up a defender unless he’s caught off balance with the contact and/or just really really sucks. I put that move at like 30% Harden’s skill level and 70% on Johnson just sucking.
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Russell was shoved then slipped.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    White guys also obsess over traveling calls at the IM

    I'm not saying there is anything wrong with white guys so don't twist

    Why do you hate moving picks and over the back calls.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Tequilla said:

    1) that was far from the filthiest move I’ve ever seen ... in fact it’s way more common than not

    2) if you look at that angle Harden gets that contact Johnson’s in the middle of his slide ... he’s not off balance leading into it and looks like a baby fawn afterwards as his feet are massively messed up

    3) that being said, Johnson should be clowned for going down like that on that move

    The most comparable move/action I can think of to that was Jordan’s shot on Russell in the 98 Finals. In both cases, give Jordan/Harden massive credit for being able to have the body control to stop on a dime and use a little bit of arm action to discard the defender. Nobody looks at the Jordan play and says that Russell got clowned.

    And I guess that’s my point, Harden’s clearly got tremendous skills and that’s a really tough move to stop as a defender. But that move doesn’t fuck up a defender unless he’s caught off balance with the contact and/or just really really sucks. I put that move at like 30% Harden’s skill level and 70% on Johnson just sucking.

    It wasn't that great of a move, but He ded.


    R I P
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,103
    salemcoog said:

    White guys also obsess over traveling calls at the IM

    I'm not saying there is anything wrong with white guys so don't twist

    Why do you hate moving picks and over the back calls.
    FUCK I hate over the back. That is such bullshit.

    If a dude is 6'11 and he reaches over a 6'0" guy for a rebound....IT'S A REBOUND !!!!

    Instead the zebra fucks call "over the back"... WTF?!?!

    Google that shit in the rulebook.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    salemcoog said:

    Tequilla said:

    1) that was far from the filthiest move I’ve ever seen ... in fact it’s way more common than not

    2) if you look at that angle Harden gets that contact Johnson’s in the middle of his slide ... he’s not off balance leading into it and looks like a baby fawn afterwards as his feet are massively messed up

    3) that being said, Johnson should be clowned for going down like that on that move

    The most comparable move/action I can think of to that was Jordan’s shot on Russell in the 98 Finals. In both cases, give Jordan/Harden massive credit for being able to have the body control to stop on a dime and use a little bit of arm action to discard the defender. Nobody looks at the Jordan play and says that Russell got clowned.

    And I guess that’s my point, Harden’s clearly got tremendous skills and that’s a really tough move to stop as a defender. But that move doesn’t fuck up a defender unless he’s caught off balance with the contact and/or just really really sucks. I put that move at like 30% Harden’s skill level and 70% on Johnson just sucking.

    It wasn't that great of a move, but He ded.


    R I P
    The move was irrelevent. Staring at him and waiting until he got back up to shoot was everything.
    That part I agree with ... but that’s the part of Harden I can’t stand ... stare him down AFTER you make the shot ... he misses that shot and he looks as dumb as Johnson IMO
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    salemcoog said:

    Tequilla said:

    1) that was far from the filthiest move I’ve ever seen ... in fact it’s way more common than not

    2) if you look at that angle Harden gets that contact Johnson’s in the middle of his slide ... he’s not off balance leading into it and looks like a baby fawn afterwards as his feet are massively messed up

    3) that being said, Johnson should be clowned for going down like that on that move

    The most comparable move/action I can think of to that was Jordan’s shot on Russell in the 98 Finals. In both cases, give Jordan/Harden massive credit for being able to have the body control to stop on a dime and use a little bit of arm action to discard the defender. Nobody looks at the Jordan play and says that Russell got clowned.

    And I guess that’s my point, Harden’s clearly got tremendous skills and that’s a really tough move to stop as a defender. But that move doesn’t fuck up a defender unless he’s caught off balance with the contact and/or just really really sucks. I put that move at like 30% Harden’s skill level and 70% on Johnson just sucking.

    It wasn't that great of a move, but He ded.


    R I P
    The move was irrelevent. Staring at him and waiting until he got back up to shoot was everything.
    That part I agree with ... but that’s the part of Harden I can’t stand ... stare him down AFTER you make the shot ... he misses that shot and he looks as dumb as Johnson IMO
    That’s the point. He made the shot.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,773 Founders Club
    I fucking hate Mina Kimes. She’s not funny, she’s not interesting. she gets all this focus because Lebatard and his minions want to fuck her.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,143

    Tequilla said:

    Was it not?

    Narrator: "It was not."



    People have a hard time accepting that James Harden is insanely good.
    His footwork is insane and he makes it look effortless. I think Presti has a great eye for young talent, but he fucked up letting Harden go.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    Tequilla said:

    salemcoog said:

    Tequilla said:

    1) that was far from the filthiest move I’ve ever seen ... in fact it’s way more common than not

    2) if you look at that angle Harden gets that contact Johnson’s in the middle of his slide ... he’s not off balance leading into it and looks like a baby fawn afterwards as his feet are massively messed up

    3) that being said, Johnson should be clowned for going down like that on that move

    The most comparable move/action I can think of to that was Jordan’s shot on Russell in the 98 Finals. In both cases, give Jordan/Harden massive credit for being able to have the body control to stop on a dime and use a little bit of arm action to discard the defender. Nobody looks at the Jordan play and says that Russell got clowned.

    And I guess that’s my point, Harden’s clearly got tremendous skills and that’s a really tough move to stop as a defender. But that move doesn’t fuck up a defender unless he’s caught off balance with the contact and/or just really really sucks. I put that move at like 30% Harden’s skill level and 70% on Johnson just sucking.

    It wasn't that great of a move, but He ded.


    R I P
    The move was irrelevent. Staring at him and waiting until he got back up to shoot was everything.
    That part I agree with ... but that’s the part of Harden I can’t stand ... stare him down AFTER you make the shot ... he misses that shot and he looks as dumb as Johnson IMO
    THAT is what makes it cool. Any dip shit can do it after finding out if it's ok.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,956 Swaye's Wigwam
    Whatever, he's no Randolph Childress.

    https://youtu.be/sRJMsoIptQo
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Whatever, he's no Randolph Childress.

    https://youtu.be/sRJMsoIptQo

    Everybody in ACC territory thought he was going to be a star.

    Jeff McInnis is probably a bigger name twenty years later. Sad.