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Mass murders: Europe vs. US of A
LebamDawg
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Keep hearing the arguments about disarming the US more like Europe. Which I think would never work for a number of reasons but I looked at "rampage killings". Unfortunately Wikipedia appears to be the best source so the info probly sucks.
Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Europe)
the Americas (includes more than just US but mostly US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Americas)
Wiki's criteria for the list
This list should contain every case with at least one of the following features:
Rampage killings with 6 or more dead
Rampage killings with at least 4 people killed and least ten victims overall (dead plus injured)
Rampage killings with at least 2 people killed and least 12 victims overall (dead plus injured)
An incidence of rampage killing shall not be included in this list if it does not include at least two people killed.
In all cases the perpetrator is not counted among those killed or injured.
But I noticed that the Norway idiot that took out 77 and injured 110 was not included so I added those numbers - the numbers below are from 2000 to the present
US leads by
deaths Injured Europe Dead Injured
69 270 252 468
USA Dead Injured
321 738
for us having 250 milllion guns we are not as efficient as the Europeans - they have had more years of experience so that makes sense.
By the way the wiki pages are sortable and is rather chinteresting or not
Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Europe)
the Americas (includes more than just US but mostly US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Americas)
Wiki's criteria for the list
This list should contain every case with at least one of the following features:
Rampage killings with 6 or more dead
Rampage killings with at least 4 people killed and least ten victims overall (dead plus injured)
Rampage killings with at least 2 people killed and least 12 victims overall (dead plus injured)
An incidence of rampage killing shall not be included in this list if it does not include at least two people killed.
In all cases the perpetrator is not counted among those killed or injured.
But I noticed that the Norway idiot that took out 77 and injured 110 was not included so I added those numbers - the numbers below are from 2000 to the present
US leads by
deaths Injured Europe Dead Injured
69 270 252 468
USA Dead Injured
321 738
for us having 250 milllion guns we are not as efficient as the Europeans - they have had more years of experience so that makes sense.
By the way the wiki pages are sortable and is rather chinteresting or not
Comments
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Think you missed this part of the table:Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see: List of rampage killers (Americas)
Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories. -
When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion -
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion -
updates coming soon Thanks @UWhuskytskeet - can't expect me to have reading comprehension while drinking do youUWhuskytskeet said:Think you missed this part of the table:
Only the first 15 entries are shown here. For the entire list see: List of rampage killers (Americas)
Not included are school massacres, workplace killings, hate crimes or familicides, which form their own categories. -
Are you from Oregon.PurpleThrobber said:
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion -
The Throbber is from and at everywhere. OmnipotentThrobber, so to speak.topdawgnc said:
Are you from Oregon.PurpleThrobber said:
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion
We are all Throbber.
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Only because we didn't listen to Coach Patton and win the whole thingPurpleThrobber said:
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion -
Updated numbers - really surprised at the European numbers - bunch of rednecks there
Formatting is my strong point
Europe
Type Deaths Injuries
Rampage General 175 358
Soldiers 28 12
Schools 56 31
Racial, Religious, etc 125 528
Total 384 929
US of A
Type Deaths Injuries
Rampage General 273 683
Soldiers 28 47
Schools 115 98
Racial, Religious, etc 49 58
Totals 465 886
Reference tables:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers Then used the links on the table to the right for complete listings. Used Americas eliminating all but US, Europe, Workplace, Soldiers, Schools, Racial Religious Hate – the ones I thought would reflect firearm incidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Americas) this should be a complete listing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Europe) This should be a complete listing
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Near the same amount of victims, Moar kill shots by the American shooters.
USA! USA! USA! -
Look what you have created Derek.salemcoog said:Near the same amount of victims, Moar kill shots by the American shooters.
USA! USA! USA! -
Yea but something about Sweden or something
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The Vikings slaughtered half of Europe without gunsCuntWaffle said:Yea but something about Sweden or something
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RaceBannon said:
The Vikings slaughtered half of Europe without gunsCuntWaffle said:Yea but something about Sweden or something
Yes, please....slaughter me.
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We need commonsense laws on double-handed battle axes. A 20 tides waiting period at minimumRaceBannon said:
The Vikings slaughtered half of Europe without gunsCuntWaffle said:Yea but something about Sweden or something
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YBFEGrundleStiltzkin said:
We need commonsense laws on double-handed battle axes. A 20 tides waiting period at minimumRaceBannon said:
The Vikings slaughtered half of Europe without gunsCuntWaffle said:Yea but something about Sweden or something
I had to look up tides. FML. -
We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore , their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I've seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old hoses or oxen.RaceBannon said:
Only because we didn't listen to Coach Patton and win the whole thingPurpleThrobber said:
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion
I'll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties,could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don't ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six
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And a little more from George:creepycoug said:
We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore , their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I've seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old hoses or oxen.RaceBannon said:
Only because we didn't listen to Coach Patton and win the whole thingPurpleThrobber said:
One was a half-global-natty shared with Stalin's boys.topdawgnc said:When we stand by as Messico slowly takes over Central and South America, and kills 6 million Jews ...
I'll give a fuck about comparisons to Europe.
Signed,
Defending Two Time World War Champion
I'll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties,could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don't ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six
million lives.
The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be
ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin, they have not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least , not until it is too late.
We have destroyed what could have been a good race of people and we are about to replace them with mongolian savages and all of Europe with communism.
General Anders of the Polish 2 corps told me that if his corps got between a German Army and a Russian Army he would have trouble deciding which direction to fight.
The one thing which I could not say then, and cannot yet say, is that my chief interest in establishing order in Germany was to prevent Germany from going communist. I am afraid that our foolish and utterly stupid policy regard to Germany will certainly cause them to join the Russians and there by insure communistic state throughout western europe.
Re-visiting Patton, I have decided to become an unapologetic right winger once again, no matter the intellectual cost. I apologize for all that I have done. I'll behave now.
