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TSiO Episode #47: The Barber >>>>

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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    And seriously TBS guys: You had "Barber" to work with, a proverbial blank slate for racial comedy, and you did nothing with it. So disappointing. Time to up your game, gents.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,250 Swaye's Wigwam

    doogville said:

    Tequilla said:

    Missing the point ...

    It’s not that you are tweaking the strategy to go after fast strategy kids at the expense of slow strategy

    It’s that you are tweaking the message for fast strategy to tailor a message that resonates

    Slow strategy kids will always be the OKG foundation ... but putting fast kids with slow kids promotes growth and pull to the middle for both

    Uh... Maybe? It could work, sure.

    Or maybe if you put Marcus Peters in Pete's system a coach gets choked & kid gets kicked off the team.

    Pete has plenty of experience with figuring out the types of players he wants. It's clear that this year he took steps to improve recruiting, but still focused on OKGs.

    My guess is this is less about "we don't know how to recruit fast strategy" and more about Pete wanting to coach up a certain type of kid.

    He knows the kids who thrive in his system, and he's going after those kids. Makes sense.
    What the fuck is wrong with you you fucking dumb shit?

    1) who the fuck has sociology? You think epigenetics and fucking sociology have anything to do with each other you stupid fuck? Get it fucking straight or shut the fuck up.

    2) It’s not mutually exclusive you fucking moron. Fucking Marcus Peters? That’s your example you stupid fuck?

    You think every fucking FS kid is Marcus Peters you stupid shit?

    Literally go fuck yourself. When you know the difference between biology and sociology maybe then you should start talking. Until then shut the fuck up when grown folks are talking.
    I know we cannot all be fast/slow strategy experts like you. But while biology is part of it, so is early childhood environment, you dumb fuck.

    You learn resource scarcity/dangers of life when you are a child. Socioeconomics is not divorced from your fast/slow analysis.

    And, again, my point is that this obsession with fast/slow strategy is meaningless if you ignore all the valid reasons a coach could have for targeting slow strategy kids. Pete literally recruited to his system this year & got a class that, if repeated, will be a championship roster.

    So if he doesn't want a bunch of kids with shitty impulse control on his team, so be it. As long as we are getting talent, then recruiting kids who fit you system & who you know you can coach up is a good strategy.

    Last year, this critique would have had more value, because Pete's strategy wasn't yielding kids with enough talent. That has, apparently, been fixed. Because, as you point out, there are supremely talented athletes in both camps.

    Tl/Dr Pete knows that the fuck he is doing.

  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    edited February 2018
    I have been drunk with both doogville and dennis and my brain cannot compute this argument right now.


  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Guess what bitches? This thread is infected with HIV
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited February 2018
    doogville said:

    doogville said:

    Tequilla said:

    Missing the point ...

    It’s not that you are tweaking the strategy to go after fast strategy kids at the expense of slow strategy

    It’s that you are tweaking the message for fast strategy to tailor a message that resonates

    Slow strategy kids will always be the OKG foundation ... but putting fast kids with slow kids promotes growth and pull to the middle for both

    Uh... Maybe? It could work, sure.

    Or maybe if you put Marcus Peters in Pete's system a coach gets choked & kid gets kicked off the team.

    Pete has plenty of experience with figuring out the types of players he wants. It's clear that this year he took steps to improve recruiting, but still focused on OKGs.

    My guess is this is less about "we don't know how to recruit fast strategy" and more about Pete wanting to coach up a certain type of kid.

    He knows the kids who thrive in his system, and he's going after those kids. Makes sense.
    What the fuck is wrong with you you fucking dumb shit?

    1) who the fuck has sociology? You think epigenetics and fucking sociology have anything to do with each other you stupid fuck? Get it fucking straight or shut the fuck up.

    2) It’s not mutually exclusive you fucking moron. Fucking Marcus Peters? That’s your example you stupid fuck?

    You think every fucking FS kid is Marcus Peters you stupid shit?

    Literally go fuck yourself. When you know the difference between biology and sociology maybe then you should start talking. Until then shut the fuck up when grown folks are talking.
    I know we cannot all be fast/slow strategy experts like you. But while biology is part of it, so is early childhood environment, you dumb fuck.

    You learn resource scarcity/dangers of life when you are a child. Socioeconomics is not divorced from your fast/slow analysis.

    And, again, my point is that this obsession with fast/slow strategy is meaningless if you ignore all the valid reasons a coach could have for targeting slow strategy kids. Pete literally recruited to his system this year & got a class that, if repeated, will be a championship roster.

    So if he doesn't want a bunch of kids with shitty impulse control on his team, so be it. As long as we are getting talent, then recruiting kids who fit you system & who you know you can coach up is a good strategy.

    Last year, this critique would have had more value, because Pete's strategy wasn't yielding kids with enough talent. That has, apparently, been fixed. Because, as you point out, there are supremely talented athletes in both camps.

    Tl/Dr Pete knows that the fuck he is doing.

    Fuck you you stupid shit.

    Yeah, Pete knows what he’s doing. Sure.

    Except for the fact that LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING CRITICISM* I have had of him he has realized was a real issue about a year and a half too late.

    Pete’s comfort zone is try hard whiteys. And he’s adjusting but it didn’t need a fucking adjustment.

    It was obvious that a staff with 7 white try hard fag coaches (what we originally had: Smith, Pease, Straußer, Choate, Gregory, Kwiatkowski, Pete) was going to fucking suck at recruiting. And they did. Out of that group only one guy could recruit and he left to become a head coach at Montana State.

    Bonerpop and Paopao are fucking JAGs.

    But when he’s hired, he’s done well.

    Also you dumb fuck, I said in the original fucking post that this was an EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY lecture you moron. Why would you have to be an expert on life history theory to have 10th grade level reading comprehension?

    Fuck your low standards apologetics for Pete’s try hard bullshit.

    I love Pete, but let’s call a fucking spade a spade.

    Anyway, I love you but fuck off with this shit.

    *except a couple.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Also - doogville you fucking dumbshit, what you think of as “learned” from socioeconomics is almost exclusively in-womb environment. The primary cause of differences is fucking cortisol and particular types of nutrients in the placenta so fuck you.

    Also you dumb fuck - what do you think we are learning? You think learning isn’t fucking biology? Do you have a new theory of human learning and brain development where the direct cause of changes to the brain isn’t based in biological material, because if so - and you sound like an expert - you should immediately publish it and collect your Nobel Prize for showing non-material causation!!

    Trust me, every fucking physicist in the world would be shocked and fascinated to learn that biological material is not what humans are made of and that you’ve fucking found the magic in the universe that does everything!!

    TL/DR if you don’t understand integrative levels of knowledge and the reason for different levels of inquiry never fucking try to talk to someone who does.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    DDY chill the fuck out. Peterman might not be moving as fast you want him, but he is making the right adjustments.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    DDY chill the fuck out. Peterman might not be moving as fast you want him, but he is making the right adjustments.

    That’s not the point.

    The point is I’ve been Doogfighting heroically for 15 years and I know the Doog narratives when I see them.

    “Trust the coaches” is the oldest one.

    What’s the fucking problem with non Doogs pointing out that things aren’t perfect? It only hurts you if you want to protect Pete’s feelings or you think it’s unreasonable to have high standards.

    I fucking love Pete, but he’s not perfect and this is a message bored so I just say what I think.

    This is literally the entire reason this bored exists. If you need it explained further you should fucking go to dawgman and talk about how great Straußer was.