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Deryuter good, but Petersen bad?
Auburndawg
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WHY?
Petersen has coached the premier mid-major and has beaten BCS schools. Tons of experience.
Wilcox worked for him.
What part of 92-12 do you not like?
Petersen has coached the premier mid-major and has beaten BCS schools. Tons of experience.
Wilcox worked for him.
What part of 92-12 do you not like?
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For once, I agree with AuburnDoog. Petersen has done it for longer in the same conference. An 8-4 season shows how fickle many fans are. Petersen has turned down a shitload of jobs. He's not Mora, but he would be a good hire, and a safer bet than DeRuyter.
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I can agree with this, doesn't make sense to me. I would take either or over Nuss but would prefer Petersen if it came down it it. I think people have a bad taste in their mouths because of the plunger job Sark put on him this season. Even great coaches lose to mediocre ones from time to time.
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The part where he made a living beating up on Wyoming, San Jose, New Mexico State and Idaho.
But DeRuyter and Petersen and the two best "realistic" names out there.
Edited to say if he hasn't been interested in Oregon in the past, and in SC last week, he probably has no interest in UW. But who knows... -
Hiring a coach is always a gamble but I just find Petersen to be one of the less riskier hires. The fact that he beats up the sisters of the poor year in year out is a factor. His track record against the Pac-12 and top 25 teams is actually not that bad though.Haid_D_Salaami said:The part where he made a living beating up on Wyoming, San Jose, New Mexico State and Idaho.
But DeRuyter and Petersen and the two best "realistic" names out there.
Edited to say if he hasn't been interested in Oregon in the past, and in SC last week, he probably has no interest in UW. But who knows...
I think Petersen would be a decent hire because as I stated in another thread a coach who has gone to a couple BCS bowl games with so called "inferior talent" should be able to come in and work with the decent talent we have and be competing for a Rose Bowl in year 1. If he goes 9-5 with this group then he isn't the guy.
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Boise SRS ratings...
Before Peterson
52
13
28
17
Peterson:
10
39
13
11
4
7
34
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Auburn, Petersen is the #1 choice by a landslide. He's just stubborn and loyal. The second choice, Mora included, is lightyears distant. Ive already prayed for CP. Hopefully the good lord throws me a bone.Auburndawg said:WHY?
Petersen has coached the premier mid-major and has beaten BCS schools. Tons of experience.
Wilcox worked for him.
What part of 92-12 do you not like?
Anyone who thinks CP isnt the best choice needs help
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I'm not 100% sold because I've seen these BCS "buster" coaches fail at the higher level enough to worry me. Hawkins, Mendenhall, Whittingham, Patterson all come to mind.CuntWaffle said:
Hiring a coach is always a gamble but I just find Petersen to be one of the less riskier hires. The fact that he beats up the sisters of the poor year in year out is a factor. His track record against the Pac-12 and top 25 teams is actually not that bad though.Haid_D_Salaami said:The part where he made a living beating up on Wyoming, San Jose, New Mexico State and Idaho.
But DeRuyter and Petersen and the two best "realistic" names out there.
Edited to say if he hasn't been interested in Oregon in the past, and in SC last week, he probably has no interest in UW. But who knows...
I think Petersen would be a decent hire because as I stated in another thread a coach who has gone to a couple BCS bowl games with so called "inferior talent" should be able to come in and work with the decent talent we have and be competing for a Rose Bowl in year 1. If he goes 9-5 with this group then he isn't the guy.
That said, he get's the most out of what he has on a consistent basis. I'm not gonna jump into a flaming dumpster if either Petersen or DeRuyter get hired. I favor Deruyter right now mostly because of his defensive background.
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CP = child pr0n?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Auburn, Petersen is the #1 choice by a landslide. He's just stubborn and loyal. The second choice, Mora included, is lightyears distant. Ive already prayed for CP. Hopefully the good lord throws me a bone.Auburndawg said:WHY?
Petersen has coached the premier mid-major and has beaten BCS schools. Tons of experience.
Wilcox worked for him.
What part of 92-12 do you not like?
Anyone who thinks CP isnt the best choice needs help
Always figured you were the type.
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In terms of points against Boise State was 41st this year and Fresno State was 83rd. Fresno has the record it does this year because Carr has been killing it (1st in the FBS in passing yards).Haid_D_Salaami said:
I'm not 100% sold because I've seen these BCS "buster" coaches fail at the higher level enough to worry me. Hawkins, Mendenhall, Whittingham, Patterson all come to mind.CuntWaffle said:
Hiring a coach is always a gamble but I just find Petersen to be one of the less riskier hires. The fact that he beats up the sisters of the poor year in year out is a factor. His track record against the Pac-12 and top 25 teams is actually not that bad though.Haid_D_Salaami said:The part where he made a living beating up on Wyoming, San Jose, New Mexico State and Idaho.
But DeRuyter and Petersen and the two best "realistic" names out there.
Edited to say if he hasn't been interested in Oregon in the past, and in SC last week, he probably has no interest in UW. But who knows...
I think Petersen would be a decent hire because as I stated in another thread a coach who has gone to a couple BCS bowl games with so called "inferior talent" should be able to come in and work with the decent talent we have and be competing for a Rose Bowl in year 1. If he goes 9-5 with this group then he isn't the guy.
That said, he get's the most out of what he has on a consistent basis. I'm not gonna jump into a flaming dumpster if either Petersen or DeRuyter get hired. I favor Deruyter right now mostly because of his defensive background.
I would like to see an actual so called offensive mind like Petersen come in and see what he could do with weapons like Kasen, Stringfellow, Mickens, Ross, Washington, and possibly even ASJ. If he can't get production against P12 competition constantly with that group then we will know he is just another Boise State dud. -
Without a doubt I would take Petersen over any coordinator/1st time head coach learning on the job.
I'm hesitant of Petersen because BSU coaches have not fared well after they've left BSU. The college head coaching careers of former BSU coaches Nutt, Hawkins and Koetter ended after they failed when they left BSU for higher profile jobs. Nutt had some success @ AR, but he's no longer a head coach. Koetter's best finish in the Pac-10 was 3rd and he's an NFL asst. now. We all know how Hawkins did @ Colorado and he's coaching in fukin Montreal now. No joke. Plus, Petersen got beat by Dillingham and 7WS.
I like DeRuyter more because he's defensive oriented, he took over a shaky program and showed dramatic improvement in all phases, and won a conf. championship in his 1st yr and is playing for a second 1 after having 10 wins this season. He's coached in 13 bowls. While he hasn't been a HC for long, he's been coaching for over 22 years. -
I need to see a championship
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Three words:
Nutt
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Does Nutt really count? The guy coached for 1 year had a shitty record at Boise State . That was more of an ArkansasFS hire, no reason he should have been bumped up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Three words:
Nutt
Koetter
Hawkins
Hawkins is the big red flag for sure but I think Petersen is a step up from him. Petersen took over a 9-4 team and won a BCS game the next year. Sure he was in the system already but Helfrich was also the same kind of hire and that turned out much worse.
IIRC correctly Petersen was a Maldanado kicker away from a 3rd BCS bowl in 6 years in 2011. He is 5-2 in bowl games with 2 BCS wins.
I just feel he is a safe hire because the doogs love calling BSU Boise Junior College so I feel the leash would be short if he failed year 1. I would just prefer him over Wilcox and Nuss who appear to be the favorites. By no means is he close to one of my first choices though as pool boy pretty much has enough money to get whoever he wants.
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nothing a $4 Million contract can't cure.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Auburn, Petersen is the #1 choice by a landslide. He's just stubborn and loyal. The second choice, Mora included, is lightyears distant. Ive already prayed for CP. Hopefully the good lord throws me a bone.Auburndawg said:WHY?
Petersen has coached the premier mid-major and has beaten BCS schools. Tons of experience.
Wilcox worked for him.
What part of 92-12 do you not like?
Anyone who thinks CP isnt the best choice needs help
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Like I said, I'm not gonna run out and drink bleach if pool actually hires Petersen. But I am wary.CuntWaffle said:
In terms of points against Boise State was 41st this year and Fresno State was 83rd. Fresno has the record it does this year because Carr has been killing it (1st in the FBS in passing yards).Haid_D_Salaami said:
I'm not 100% sold because I've seen these BCS "buster" coaches fail at the higher level enough to worry me. Hawkins, Mendenhall, Whittingham, Patterson all come to mind.CuntWaffle said:
Hiring a coach is always a gamble but I just find Petersen to be one of the less riskier hires. The fact that he beats up the sisters of the poor year in year out is a factor. His track record against the Pac-12 and top 25 teams is actually not that bad though.Haid_D_Salaami said:The part where he made a living beating up on Wyoming, San Jose, New Mexico State and Idaho.
But DeRuyter and Petersen and the two best "realistic" names out there.
Edited to say if he hasn't been interested in Oregon in the past, and in SC last week, he probably has no interest in UW. But who knows...
I think Petersen would be a decent hire because as I stated in another thread a coach who has gone to a couple BCS bowl games with so called "inferior talent" should be able to come in and work with the decent talent we have and be competing for a Rose Bowl in year 1. If he goes 9-5 with this group then he isn't the guy.
That said, he get's the most out of what he has on a consistent basis. I'm not gonna jump into a flaming dumpster if either Petersen or DeRuyter get hired. I favor Deruyter right now mostly because of his defensive background.
I would like to see an actual so called offensive mind like Petersen come in and see what he could do with weapons like Kasen, Stringfellow, Mickens, Ross, Washington, and possibly even ASJ. If he can't get production against P12 competition constantly with that group then we will know he is just another Boise State dud.
Back when Ty was fired I was actually big on Whittingham. My landlord in Utah was the father of all-MWC WR Derrick Richards. I got tickets to any game I wanted. I was at Rice Eccles in '07 when the Utes plungered #10 UCLA 44-6. I thought goddamn! This guy can recruit, develop AND gameday coach. Whittingham finished of the 2008 season by beating #4 Bama in the Sugar Bowl while UW was wading thru the muck looking for someone who even wanted the fucking job. I thought Whitt was he guy.
Fast forward and now that UofU is in the PAC he has barely achieved mediocre. That's why I'm wary. But like you said..it's a gamble no matter who you go with.
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Here's what I would like about Petersen.
If he does, and that is a big fucking if, wins championships ...
He has proven he will stick with the region, which means if paid well he likely stays. -
Who was the coach at Fresno State before Deruyter?
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