Geeky Recruiting Data Shit
The data is Rivals recruiting database. I'd prefer to use the 24/7 Composite rankings, but scraping that shit from the web is a major PITA.
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Based on this analysis, Ty just needed more time.
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It was his least terrible class, on paper. In reality it was pretty awful, though Polk, Kearse, and Ta'amu were special.AEB said:Based on this analysis, Ty just needed more time.
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Charts not chinteractive. Pass.
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I prefer DDY’s recent outlook of positive developments in our DL recruiting. -
When all this data is combined, a clear picture emerges.
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Need @Dardanus to confirm
Stanford appears to be way more talented than us. I'm not sure but we're third now behind USC and Stanford
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The funny part is the dip beore UW's rise was Pete's first class which ended up re-ranked as the best in the Pac that year.AIRWOLF said:I am learning how to use some data visualization software, so of course I am playing around with TBS data.
The data is Rivals recruiting database. I'd prefer to use the 24/7 Composite rankings, but scraping that shit from the web is a major PITA.
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Pretty good start @AIRWOLF. Couple things I would consider:
1. Sort/order by star ranking (best to worst), not alphabetical. The idea is you want to show the important information in order.
2. The message you send with a line chart is greatly affected by aspect ratio. There is no perfect ratio, but generally 2:1 (w:h) is about right. In this case, a 0.2 star ranking change is a steep increase or decrease. Columns or bars might be a better choice.
3. Are you trying to emphasize the trend over time, or compare average ranking of each school? Comparing rank of each school can be done much simpler (11 bars ordered by avg rank over this time period, Cal excluded of course).
Comparing the trend of multiple items can be difficult in a limited space. A good method is to put all lines on a single chart, with a selected school using their color, all other schools being gray/semi-transparent in the background. Your visualization tool might not do this, though.
4. Be careful web-scraping TBS stuff. My cousin had the FBI knock on his door for similar activity. Not good. -
When Does your shit recruiting website launch?
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Of course you would know base. Did you discover that with your head pushing against that dumpster in that dirty-smelling capital hill alley? Or was it the soft reach-around inside your fresh-smelling linens inside the vintage capital hill studio?Baseman said:
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You can clearly see the inflation in the grading system. Everyone other than Cal and the Arizona schools trending up.
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Do you even Tableau, bro?Dardanus said:Pretty good start @AIRWOLF. Couple things I would consider:
1. Sort/order by star ranking (best to worst), not alphabetical. The idea is you want to show the important information in order.
2. The message you send with a line chart is greatly affected by aspect ratio. There is no perfect ratio, but generally 2:1 (w:h) is about right. In this case, a 0.2 star ranking change is a steep increase or decrease. Columns or bars might be a better choice.
3. Are you trying to emphasize the trend over time, or compare average ranking of each school? Comparing rank of each school can be done much simpler (11 bars ordered by avg rank over this time period, Cal excluded of course).
Comparing the trend of multiple items can be difficult in a limited space. A good method is to put all lines on a single chart, with a selected school using their color, all other schools being gray/semi-transparent in the background. Your visualization tool might not do this, though.
4. Be careful web-scraping TBS stuff. My cousin had the FBI knock on his door for similar activity. Not good.
Seriously though, thanks. I have tons more I need to do with this, but I am a retard with this software.
A lot of it is stuff I have done in Excel before, just not over as long a time period.
I really am doing this first and foremost to learn how to use the stupid software. Simple things like changing the colors of the lines and formatting things are easy once you know how to do them, but they are not easy when you don't. -
Yeah. There is certainly grade inflation going on. The Sum total of the average Stars for the Top 100 teams has risen steadily over time.FremontTroll said:You can clearly see the inflation in the grading system. Everyone other than Cal and the Arizona schools trending up.
I am going to work in a viz (look at me using serious geek lingo) on that too. -
We understand better than most... It’s hardAIRWOLF said:
Do you even Tableau, bro?Dardanus said:Pretty good start @AIRWOLF. Couple things I would consider:
1. Sort/order by star ranking (best to worst), not alphabetical. The idea is you want to show the important information in order.
2. The message you send with a line chart is greatly affected by aspect ratio. There is no perfect ratio, but generally 2:1 (w:h) is about right. In this case, a 0.2 star ranking change is a steep increase or decrease. Columns or bars might be a better choice.
3. Are you trying to emphasize the trend over time, or compare average ranking of each school? Comparing rank of each school can be done much simpler (11 bars ordered by avg rank over this time period, Cal excluded of course).
Comparing the trend of multiple items can be difficult in a limited space. A good method is to put all lines on a single chart, with a selected school using their color, all other schools being gray/semi-transparent in the background. Your visualization tool might not do this, though.
4. Be careful web-scraping TBS stuff. My cousin had the FBI knock on his door for similar activity. Not good.
Seriously though, thanks. I have tons more I need to do with this, but I am a retard with this software.
A lot of it is stuff I have done in Excel before, just not over as long a time period.
I really am doing this first and foremost to learn how to use the stupid software. Simple things like changing the colors of the lines and formatting things are easy once you know how to do them, but they are not easy when you don't. -
Chinspiring. Time to gogo data science.
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Created a shitty heatmap with dendrograms, interpolating the missing games so we get to play EVERYONE.
Rows are offense, columns are defense.
Spoilers: we lose to USC and are a tossup with dickrod thanks to our shitty offense. Our defense is clustered similarly to USC and Stanford, our offense is similar to that of ASU.
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Yep, Tableau is great. It can definitely create the dynamic line chart. This poast may help (the "data-ink" concept is what I was trying to get at).AIRWOLF said:
Do you even Tableau, bro?Dardanus said:Pretty good start @AIRWOLF. Couple things I would consider:
1. Sort/order by star ranking (best to worst), not alphabetical. The idea is you want to show the important information in order.
2. The message you send with a line chart is greatly affected by aspect ratio. There is no perfect ratio, but generally 2:1 (w:h) is about right. In this case, a 0.2 star ranking change is a steep increase or decrease. Columns or bars might be a better choice.
3. Are you trying to emphasize the trend over time, or compare average ranking of each school? Comparing rank of each school can be done much simpler (11 bars ordered by avg rank over this time period, Cal excluded of course).
Comparing the trend of multiple items can be difficult in a limited space. A good method is to put all lines on a single chart, with a selected school using their color, all other schools being gray/semi-transparent in the background. Your visualization tool might not do this, though.
4. Be careful web-scraping TBS stuff. My cousin had the FBI knock on his door for similar activity. Not good.
Seriously though, thanks. I have tons more I need to do with this, but I am a retard with this software.
A lot of it is stuff I have done in Excel before, just not over as long a time period.
I really am doing this first and foremost to learn how to use the stupid software. Simple things like changing the colors of the lines and formatting things are easy once you know how to do them, but they are not easy when you don't. -
I have no idea what I am looking at, but I like it.Muttzen said:Created a shitty heatmap with dendrograms, interpolating the missing games so we get to play EVERYONE.
Rows are offense, columns are defense.
Spoilers: we lose to USC and are a tossup with dickrod thanks to our shitty offense. Our defense is clustered similarly to USC and Stanford, our offense is similar to that of ASU. -
Been geeking out some more...
The 247 Sports Composite has seen some significant grade inflation over the years.
Here is the average of the class averages for the Top 100 classes since 2002:
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As a result of this grade inflation, all recruiting "championships" aren't created equal.
On the below graph, I show the class average for the #1 class, adjusted for the average class ranking for FBS teams for that year. The classes USC was putting together in '05 and '06 clearly stand above the rest.
And why yes, those are actually the correct official colors on the graph, because I think and I care. I also have no life.
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Here is the progression of our? classes in terms of 247 Composite class average over the years, compared to the average for all "Power 5" teams. Includes 2018 commits through Irvin.
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Damn. Last 3 classes are the best since 02, and getting better every year. Pete has this shit rolling.
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Yep. The other thing to realize is that even if you throw out Sarkisian's 2009 transition class, his recruiting was basically just in-line with the Power 5 average over the 2010-2013 time frame.Swaye said:Damn. Last 3 classes are the best since 02, and getting better every year. Pete has this shit rolling.
Petersen's '16 class was equivalent to Sarkisian's '13 class (Sark's best) on paper. Of course, we all realize that "on paper" is ridiculously flattering to Sark's classes, while it is actually a bit punitive to Petersen's classes. -
I see you've given up on Tableau.
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Pete's classes are a stairway to heaven. I love 2018's class. Best I've ever seen at UW since I've cared to pay attention (1996). The raw data clearly shows that my boner will also be raw come this time next year. 2019 offseason natty will be truly speshul.
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Not given up, but I have the raw data in Excel and I am just not very good at Tableau yet(?).UWhuskytskeet said:I see you've given up on Tableau.
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With grade inflation you are probably also seeing some distortion of the data since you have an upward limit to the grade. I would think this would mean that especially in the case of media bias it means our classes would be essentially under rated vs top recruiting classes full of kids with "5 star" ratings would be overstated.
