Mora Speaks

CollegeDoog said:

http://blogs.sacbee.com/preps/archives/2013/12/ucla-coach-jim-mora-stops-by-sacramento-schools-st.html

A big no comment. This is good, no?

Not good for me.

BRB, heading to ER

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates their own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of their opponents (the "outgroup").

Antecedent factors such as group cohesiveness, faulty group structure, and situational context (e.g., community panic) play into the likelihood of whether or not groupthink will impact the decision-making process.

Groupthink is a construct of social psychology, but has an extensive reach and influences literature in the fields of communication studies, political science, management, and organizational theory,[1] as well as important aspects of deviant religious cult behaviour.[2]

Most of the initial research on groupthink was conducted by Irving Janis, a research psychologist from Yale University.[3] Janis published an influential book in 1972, which was revised in 1982.[4][5] Later studies have evaluated and reformulated his groupthink model.[6][7]


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ApostleofGrief said:

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates their own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of their opponents (the "outgroup").

Antecedent factors such as group cohesiveness, faulty group structure, and situational context (e.g., community panic) play into the likelihood of whether or not groupthink will impact the decision-making process.

Groupthink is a construct of social psychology, but has an extensive reach and influences literature in the fields of communication studies, political science, management, and organizational theory,[1] as well as important aspects of deviant religious cult behaviour.[2]

Most of the initial research on groupthink was conducted by Irving Janis, a research psychologist from Yale University.[3] Janis published an influential book in 1972, which was revised in 1982.[4][5] Later studies have evaluated and reformulated his groupthink model.[6][7]


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As part of the "outgroup" it's your responsibility to come up with a critical thinking perspective. This is where you fail. Saying the have similar CFB records is false.

Sark in five years was 34-29 .540 24-21 Pac 12 .533

Mora in two years is 18-8 .692 12-6 Pac 12 .667

Now if you have some critical thinking that can refute those cold hard facts, than so be it. But don't give me a definition of Groupthink aka. Conformity and think you're legit.

ApostleofGrief said:

I think Mora is better than Sark, and also that Mora inherited a better team from Neuheisel than what Sark got. But if you look at this year's results there is an eerie similarity of losses to the same teams. Mora took the Falcons to the NFC championship, but it was in his first year. After that it was down hill.

Don't get me wrong -- he's a capable coach. But I think that people are overhyping him off the charts in Seattle right now.

41-31 disagrees