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Breaking news on contract negotiations with Mora. Fuck.

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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    LIFPO, this means we definitely offered him something that has his attention, UCLA would be stupid to not try to counter. Now is when woodward proves he has balls and closes.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Testicles dropping commence!
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    brchco12 said:

    LIFPO, this means we definitely offered him something that has his attention, UCLA would be stupid to not try to counter. Now is when woodward proves he has balls and closes.

    Hope ur right.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    I like Danny Boy in this one.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    I'm the internet half brain who's sitting in his bed at 1:13am waiting for nuggets of information, so what the fuck do I know.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    You are an idiot if you think Woody and Mora are talking without conferencing in a Fetters, Bleenor, Biggins, Feldman, etc.
  • ExtraChrisB
    ExtraChrisB Member Posts: 1,814
    Belief is it's over the extension he got earlier this year and the buyout
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    Belief is it's over the extension he got earlier this year and the buyout

    BRO says its good news on their twitter. Does it axe Mora to UW chances?
  • Belief is it's over the extension he got earlier this year and the buyout

    BRO says its good news on their twitter. Does it axe Mora to UW chances?
    You could be right however I come back to I can't remember a team saying their coach is going to leave.

    Until he comes here or flat says no I won't believe anything.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    edited December 2013
    Maybe the BRO guys are pathological liars like the DM guys. Unlikely, but a man can dream.
  • Reading BRO twitter feed they have been putting their head in the sand the past 12 hours vehemently denying Mora would have any interest in UW. I don't trust them.
  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991
    edited December 2013
    1. Sark got an offer that Woodward didn't counter because he wanted Sark gone.
    2. Mora got an offer that FUCLA wants to counter. The game is on. FUCLA has never won a football bidding war. They don't pay top dollar for football HC's.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    can't discount the possibility Mora has a good gig going at UCLA, owns the town and just used Woody's desparation and Sarks new fortune to enhance his UCLA deal to a market rate contract.

    UCLA has alumni that could pony up $4-5 million/year with pocket change and of course, UCLA got the same $300 Million in TV money everybody else in the conference got. What have they spent it on so far?

  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991
    edited December 2013

    can't discount the possibility Mora has a good gig going at UCLA, owns the town and just used Woody's desparation and Sarks new fortune to enhance his UCLA deal to a market rate contract.

    UCLA has alumni that could pony up $4-5 million/year with pocket change and of course, UCLA got the same $300 Million in TV money everybody else in the conference got. What have they spent it on so far?

    UCLA is not a separate 501(c)(3), like we are. They're set up like Cal. Everything has to go through the Regents and the Chancellor. The AD can't negotiate independently. Just like when we stole Tosh, Cal couldn't respond quickly. UCLA cannot respond quickly. Woodward has his own money, separate from upper campus. Donors cannot give directly to the AD at UCLA unless the Regents set it up ahead of time. At UW, they can.

    Our $300 million went to Woodward. UCLA's money went to the University. If you think State Schools in Washington are strapped, you have no idea how strapped they are in California. The UCLA AD will be lucky to get half that money.

    That's why UCLA will always be little brother in LA. USC is private and can do anything they want.

    Remember the Tosh bidding, and relax. If Woodward wants this deal, it will work. If he doesn't, it won't.
  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    If there's a bit of hope we can somewhat rely on, it's that Dan Guerrero could possibly be a bigger fuck up than Woody.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    can't discount the possibility Mora has a good gig going at UCLA, owns the town and just used Woody's desparation and Sarks new fortune to enhance his UCLA deal to a market rate contract.

    UCLA has alumni that could pony up $4-5 million/year with pocket change and of course, UCLA got the same $300 Million in TV money everybody else in the conference got. What have they spent it on so far?

    UCLA is not a separate 501(c)(3), like we are. They're set up like Cal. Everything has to go through the Regents and the Chancellor. The AD can't negotiate independently. Just like when we stole Tosh, Cal couldn't respond quickly. UCLA cannot respond quickly. Woodward has his own money, separate from upper campus. Donors cannot give directly to the AD at UCLA unless the Regents set it up ahead of time. At UW, they can.

    Our $300 million went to Woodward. UCLA's money went to the University. If you think State Schools in Washington are strapped, you have no idea how strapped they are in California. The UCLA AD will be lucky to get half that money.

    That's why UCLA will always be little brother in LA. USC is private and can do anything they want.

    Remember the Tosh bidding, and relax. If Woodward wants this deal, it will work. If he doesn't, it won't.
    I want to believe you know what you're talking about. What you say makes sense.
  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    d2d has been very lucid in this thread
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    can't discount the possibility Mora has a good gig going at UCLA, owns the town and just used Woody's desparation and Sarks new fortune to enhance his UCLA deal to a market rate contract.

    UCLA has alumni that could pony up $4-5 million/year with pocket change and of course, UCLA got the same $300 Million in TV money everybody else in the conference got. What have they spent it on so far?

    UCLA is not a separate 501(c)(3), like we are. They're set up like Cal. Everything has to go through the Regents and the Chancellor. The AD can't negotiate independently. Just like when we stole Tosh, Cal couldn't respond quickly. UCLA cannot respond quickly. Woodward has his own money, separate from upper campus. Donors cannot give directly to the AD at UCLA unless the Regents set it up ahead of time. At UW, they can.

    Our $300 million went to Woodward. UCLA's money went to the University. If you think State Schools in Washington are strapped, you have no idea how strapped they are in California. The UCLA AD will be lucky to get half that money.

    That's why UCLA will always be little brother in LA. USC is private and can do anything they want.

    Remember the Tosh bidding, and relax. If Woodward wants this deal, it will work. If he doesn't, it won't.
    not exactly.

    UW is a state school. the coach gets a state pension. the football stadium was built with the full faith and credit of the State school. The head coaches contract has to be approved by the Board Of Regents which has the overall University to consider and the political implications of excessive coach contracts when they beg the legislature for money.
  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991
    More proof that the UCLA AD did NOT get the $300 million. The Regents got it.

    "UCLA intends to build a football-only facility at Spaulding Field, which would include a locker room, weight room, meeting rooms and offices for coaches. The university has hired an architect and is trying to raise $50 million for the project. Washington completed renovations on its football facilities, including Husky Stadium, last summer." LA Times

    Hey, I don't know if it will work, but I'm betting on "POOL BOY". I thinks he's got his shot lined up.
  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991
    loadsock said:

    d2d has been very lucid in this thread

    I had lots of time to think when I was cleaning toilets on Wall Street.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    loadsock said:

    d2d has been very lucid in this thread

    I had lots of time to think when I was cleaning toilets on Wall Street.
    Well done

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited December 2013

    More proof that the UCLA AD did NOT get the $300 million. The Regents got it.

    "UCLA intends to build a football-only facility at Spaulding Field, which would include a locker room, weight room, meeting rooms and offices for coaches. The university has hired an architect and is trying to raise $50 million for the project. Washington completed renovations on its football facilities, including Husky Stadium, last summer." LA Times

    Hey, I don't know if it will work, but I'm betting on "POOL BOY". I thinks he's got his shot lined up.

    UCLA has committed $200 million to the Rose Bowl renovation and another $125 million for Pauly I just read. Also, their endowment at $2.8 billion is about $700 million more than UW's. Their AD just signed an extension through 2019
  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991
    edited December 2013

    can't discount the possibility Mora has a good gig going at UCLA, owns the town and just used Woody's desparation and Sarks new fortune to enhance his UCLA deal to a market rate contract.

    UCLA has alumni that could pony up $4-5 million/year with pocket change and of course, UCLA got the same $300 Million in TV money everybody else in the conference got. What have they spent it on so far?

    UCLA is not a separate 501(c)(3), like we are. They're set up like Cal. Everything has to go through the Regents and the Chancellor. The AD can't negotiate independently. Just like when we stole Tosh, Cal couldn't respond quickly. UCLA cannot respond quickly. Woodward has his own money, separate from upper campus. Donors cannot give directly to the AD at UCLA unless the Regents set it up ahead of time. At UW, they can.

    Our $300 million went to Woodward. UCLA's money went to the University. If you think State Schools in Washington are strapped, you have no idea how strapped they are in California. The UCLA AD will be lucky to get half that money.

    That's why UCLA will always be little brother in LA. USC is private and can do anything they want.

    Remember the Tosh bidding, and relax. If Woodward wants this deal, it will work. If he doesn't, it won't.
    not exactly.

    UW is a state school. the coach gets a state pension. the football stadium was built with the full faith and credit of the State school. The head coaches contract has to be approved by the Board Of Regents which has the overall University to consider and the political implications of excessive coach contracts when they beg the legislature for money.
    not exactly.

    The contract is approved by the Regents, but he isn't paid with their money. All AD employees are paid with AD funds from revenues generated by the AD. As State employees, they all contribute to, and participate in the State Employee Pension Fund. (A fact that is irrelevant to this discussion.) The buildings used by the AD are financed with UW Muni bonds, because the AD is not the issuing authority; the University is. However, the University is NOT on the hook, because AD projects are Revenue Bonds, not General Obligations of the University. If the stadium does not produce enough revenue, the bonds don't get paid.

    At Cal, the AD revenues are owned by the University, not the AD. Because of that, the AD does NOT have the money to pay off the bonds on their stadium, unless the football team packs the place year after year. Year ONE didn't look so good for Sandy. She may have to call her rug muncher friends to chip in. If that doesn't work, the only other choice will be to charge the students VERY BIG fees every year starting in a few years to pay off Sandy's Folly.

    UCLA has more problems than Berkeley. Like Berkeley, the Rose Bowl parking is either free, or goes to the city of Pasadena. Woodward keeps his parking receipts. The Rose Bowl isn't owned by UCLA. The concessions are not owned by UCLA. UCLA pays rent. We don't. UCLA can't even raise $50 million for a new football facility. Where are the rich alums? They give money to the Regents, who give it to the Medical Center. The AD has to fight for the crumbs that the Professors don't swallow. I also don't think UCLA has a land grant since it was a campus of the UC System; another bad financial break.

    These UCLA financial problems have been debated in the LA Times for decades. Jerry Brown has just made it much worse.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    they are revenue bonds with a FFAG of the University of Washington general revenues and approved by the Board of Regents.