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TSiO DDY Breakdown 2018 Early Signees: Defense (Lineman/BUCK)
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I agree mostly with both Coker and DDY. I think the guy who has the highest potential at a DDY3 rating is definitely Bynum. I love Taimani as an OL, but there is just not much out there on him as a DL.
TL;DR - We're fucked @ DL in 2019. -
Holy fucking shit. If you don't want Martin, you want someone else? Prey fucking tell. Who are the other options? Lawrence Taylor isn't available that I know of.Passion said:
In a strange way, looking at Bartlett, Potoae and Bowman reminds of the days when Chris Jurgens and Todd Elstrom were our best WRs.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.Passion said:If Zion does not end up at BUCK (which DDY prefers), then who is the BUCK in this class? Admittedly, I like the explosiveness and closing speed of both Tafisi and Kaho. Both will have success rushing the passer, no matter which LB position they play.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Not knocking any of those guys, but it's just not the level we need.
I also see some of the same things that others (I think NorwegianHusky) mentioned re Martin on another thread. He seems to come in straight up (little bend), and without an incredibly explosive first step. I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
My fucking god. I don't get it. Martin is a DDY3. Dude is explosive, huge and accelerates in a rare way.
Can he improve on technique? Yes. Playing 'high' when you are physically dominant is the least fucking important thing I've ever heard of...
And in terms of not having an explosive first step - I mean - what the fuck? I don't see that at all. What kind of fucking players are you guys watching?
He looks like he has a higher end upside than Cameron Latu, to me. He doesn't play as 'heavy', but he's not nearly as developed as he will be. The dude will put on 35 pounds of muscle here and he won't lose much explosion.
If you look at him in a stance, he's plenty flexible - he just isn't fully formed. Physically he's super rare. I don't get it at all. -
I love you, Dennis.
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Well excuuuuse me. If he is a “DDY3” what could I be thinking? Blasphemy!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Holy fucking shit. If you don't want Martin, you want someone else? Prey fucking tell. Who are the other options? Lawrence Taylor isn't available that I know of.Passion said:
In a strange way, looking at Bartlett, Potoae and Bowman reminds of the days when Chris Jurgens and Todd Elstrom were our best WRs.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.Passion said:If Zion does not end up at BUCK (which DDY prefers), then who is the BUCK in this class? Admittedly, I like the explosiveness and closing speed of both Tafisi and Kaho. Both will have success rushing the passer, no matter which LB position they play.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Not knocking any of those guys, but it's just not the level we need.
I also see some of the same things that others (I think NorwegianHusky) mentioned re Martin on another thread. He seems to come in straight up (little bend), and without an incredibly explosive first step. I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
My fucking god. I don't get it. Martin is a DDY3. Dude is explosive, huge and accelerates in a rare way.
Can he improve on technique? Yes. Playing 'high' when you are physically dominant is the least fucking important thing I've ever heard of...
And in terms of not having an explosive first step - I mean - what the fuck? I don't see that at all. What kind of fucking players are you guys watching?
He looks like he has a higher end upside than Cameron Latu, to me. He doesn't play as 'heavy', but he's not nearly as developed as he will be. The dude will put on 35 pounds of muscle here and he won't lose much explosion.
If you look at him in a stance, he's plenty flexible - he just isn't fully formed. Physically he's super rare. I don't get it at all.
First off, your Holiness, I never said I didn’t want him. I WANT HIM. I was simply agreeing with another poster’s comments on his tape and asking for other opinions. Happy to hear counter viewpoints.
Watch Josh Shirley’s HS tape. That is explosion.
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Josh Shirley sucked. Dissent is not tolerated.Passion said:
Well excuuuuse me. If he is a “DDY3” what could I be thinking? Blasphemy!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Holy fucking shit. If you don't want Martin, you want someone else? Prey fucking tell. Who are the other options? Lawrence Taylor isn't available that I know of.Passion said:
In a strange way, looking at Bartlett, Potoae and Bowman reminds of the days when Chris Jurgens and Todd Elstrom were our best WRs.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.Passion said:If Zion does not end up at BUCK (which DDY prefers), then who is the BUCK in this class? Admittedly, I like the explosiveness and closing speed of both Tafisi and Kaho. Both will have success rushing the passer, no matter which LB position they play.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Not knocking any of those guys, but it's just not the level we need.
I also see some of the same things that others (I think NorwegianHusky) mentioned re Martin on another thread. He seems to come in straight up (little bend), and without an incredibly explosive first step. I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
My fucking god. I don't get it. Martin is a DDY3. Dude is explosive, huge and accelerates in a rare way.
Can he improve on technique? Yes. Playing 'high' when you are physically dominant is the least fucking important thing I've ever heard of...
And in terms of not having an explosive first step - I mean - what the fuck? I don't see that at all. What kind of fucking players are you guys watching?
He looks like he has a higher end upside than Cameron Latu, to me. He doesn't play as 'heavy', but he's not nearly as developed as he will be. The dude will put on 35 pounds of muscle here and he won't lose much explosion.
If you look at him in a stance, he's plenty flexible - he just isn't fully formed. Physically he's super rare. I don't get it at all.
First off, your Holiness, I never said I didn’t want him. I WANT HIM. I was simply agreeing with another poster’s comments on his tape and asking for other opinions. Happy to hear counter viewpoints.
Watch Josh Shirley’s HS tape. That is explosion. -
Sorry kim. :-)Dennis_DeYoung said:
Dissent is not tolerated.Passion said:
Well excuuuuse me. If he is a “DDY3” what could I be thinking? Blasphemy!Dennis_DeYoung said:
Holy fucking shit. If you don't want Martin, you want someone else? Prey fucking tell. Who are the other options? Lawrence Taylor isn't available that I know of.Passion said:
In a strange way, looking at Bartlett, Potoae and Bowman reminds of the days when Chris Jurgens and Todd Elstrom were our best WRs.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.Passion said:If Zion does not end up at BUCK (which DDY prefers), then who is the BUCK in this class? Admittedly, I like the explosiveness and closing speed of both Tafisi and Kaho. Both will have success rushing the passer, no matter which LB position they play.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Help us Jeremiah Martin, you're our only hope.
Not knocking any of those guys, but it's just not the level we need.
I also see some of the same things that others (I think NorwegianHusky) mentioned re Martin on another thread. He seems to come in straight up (little bend), and without an incredibly explosive first step. I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
My fucking god. I don't get it. Martin is a DDY3. Dude is explosive, huge and accelerates in a rare way.
Can he improve on technique? Yes. Playing 'high' when you are physically dominant is the least fucking important thing I've ever heard of...
And in terms of not having an explosive first step - I mean - what the fuck? I don't see that at all. What kind of fucking players are you guys watching?
He looks like he has a higher end upside than Cameron Latu, to me. He doesn't play as 'heavy', but he's not nearly as developed as he will be. The dude will put on 35 pounds of muscle here and he won't lose much explosion.
If you look at him in a stance, he's plenty flexible - he just isn't fully formed. Physically he's super rare. I don't get it at all.
First off, your Holiness, I never said I didn’t want him. I WANT HIM. I was simply agreeing with another poster’s comments on his tape and asking for other opinions. Happy to hear counter viewpoints.
Watch Josh Shirley’s HS tape. That is explosion. -
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On the next signing day we definitely will.89ute said:I listen to every pod and I'm going to listen to this one too. Please throw in in some overall Pac-12 shit for me okay?
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Take care of the Ute.Dennis_DeYoung said:
On the next signing day we definitely will.89ute said:I listen to every pod and I'm going to listen to this one too. Please throw in in some overall Pac-12 shit for me okay?
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In their defense, this is a husky related pod lol89ute said:I listen to every pod and I'm going to listen to this one too. Please throw in in some overall Pac-12 shit for me okay?
