Gerald Alexander
Cal's passing game made some fairly material improvements in 2017 with Alexander (stats Pac 12 games only):
Yards per Pass Attempt
2017: 7.77 (10th in conference)
2016: 7.76 (7th in conference)
Yards per Pass Completion
2017: 11.39 (4th in conference)
2016: 12.75 (10th in conference)
Completion %
2017: 68.2% (12th in conference)
2016: 60.9% (8th in conference)
Turnovers
2017: 15 (5th in conference)
2016: 11 (10th in conference)
Teq Analysis
If you view pass defense based on yards per attempt and completion %, you would argue that Alexander was at best break even and perhaps worse than what Cal had in 2016. The key here though is looking at the yards per completion. Shaving almost a yard and a half off per completion tells you that they did a far better job of keeping the game in front of them willing to give up short completions. With the increase in turnovers that also argues for the defense being far more structured and able to take advantage of teams when they push the ball down the field.
Moreover, when you compare to how UW plays defense, UW isn't particularly concerned about the opposition's completion percentage as many throws are underneath and swing routes to RBs before rallying up to make tackles. Watching Cal this year, that's very similar to what I saw in how they game planned. That's evident in the fact that their points per game against dropped by almost 2 TDs from 43.6 per game in 2016 to 30.6 in 2017.
Comments
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The yards per completion is only down because completion percentage is up. Maybe Cal took a different strategy to give up small gains in order to avoid the big chunk play but in the end the result was the exact same on a per play basis.
Cal's improvement as a defense came entirely in run defense. In 2016 they were the WORST in the nation at 6.2 yards per rush allowed. They brought that all the way down to 4.2 in 2017.
Maybe they left their DBs in single coverage more often in order to take away the run and Alexander's unit did well to maintain the same ypa allowed, I don't know.
But on the surface the stats don't show any real improvement at all for Cal's secondary this past season. -
Plus, he fucks.
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Kinda looks like he sucks to me.
This analysis isn't impressive at all.
There could be good reasons - tons of DB's on islands like Fremont hypothesized, or mass graduations last year that left them really young - and maybe there's better evidence from previous stops. But this does nothing to convince me he's a viable replacement.
If Lake leaves I hope we do better. -
Cal played alot of cover 1 or 2 man on the outside. They zoned their backers to mix it up. I remember correctly. So it was a variant of cover 2, man, and cover 1. They had a lot of dudes in the box.dnc said:Looks like he sucks to me.
Extremely unimpressive.
Unless there's a real good explanation like @FremontTroll hypothesized (tons of man coverage and DB's on islands) this isn't a strong argument for him.
If Lake leaves I hope we do better. -
Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
Regardless we get to see at least one more year of how he does at Cal. LIPO
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Fuckin this. The numbers were scheme and talented related. Cal sold out to stop the run. Cal's DBs played a shit ton better this year than last.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
Stats aren't for losers. The wrong stats are for losers.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers. -
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit. -
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit. -
Teq Analysis is gay.
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They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit. -
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit. -
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017. -
What it also could mean is that they focused on keeping things in front of them and then rallying up to make a tackle. They struggled big time in 2016 with big plays.dnc said:
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017.
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Obviously that's what the stats mean. That's not what you expect out of a team that blitzes a lot though. Heavy blitzing means you're primarily going to be inan with your back turned to the QB and eyes on the receiver. Keeping guys in front of you and rallying up to make a tackle means you're in zone and keeping your eyes on the QB.Tequilla said:
What it also could mean is that they focused on keeping things in front of them and then rallying up to make a tackle. They struggled big time in 2016 with big plays.dnc said:
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017.
I think your hypothetis is right. That means it's unlikely they blitzed a ton though. -
This thread officially has AIDS.
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Teq Analysis is really, really homo.
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Nah they brought a lot of 5 man pressures. Like Seattle does.dnc said:
Obviously that's what the stats mean. That's not what you expect out of a team that blitzes a lot though. Heavy blitzing means you're primarily going to be inan with your back turned to the QB and eyes on the receiver. Keeping guys in front of you and rallying up to make a tackle means you're in zone and keeping your eyes on the QB.Tequilla said:
What it also could mean is that they focused on keeping things in front of them and then rallying up to make a tackle. They struggled big time in 2016 with big plays.dnc said:
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017.
I think your hypothetis is right. That means it's unlikely they blitzed a ton though. -
I also know that Cal had some significant injuries on the defensive end of the ball towards the back half of the year as their numbers look far different when you look at the 1st half of the season to the 2nd half.
In games against USC, Oregon, Washington, and Washington St, Cal's numbers were as follows:
Yards per Attempt = 5.9
Yards per Completion = 8.7
Completion % = 68.0%
For perspective, the leading totals for the conference in Yards per Attempt/Completion were:
Yards per Attempt = 6.3 (Washington)
Yards per Completion = 9.8 (Washington) -
Yes, they did well against Browning even though that game was never close and they managed to knock Herbert out and draw Alie which was obviously beneficial.Tequilla said:I also know that Cal had some significant injuries on the defensive end of the ball towards the back half of the year as their numbers look far different when you look at the 1st half of the season to the 2nd half.
In games against USC, Oregon, Washington, and Washington St, Cal's numbers were as follows:
Yards per Attempt = 5.9
Yards per Completion = 8.7
Completion % = 68.0%
For perspective, the leading totals for the conference in Yards per Attempt/Completion were:
Yards per Attempt = 6.3 (Washington)
Yards per Completion = 9.8 (Washington)
But now it feels like you are cherry picking data to fit a preformed narrative.
They also gave up 9.6 ypa to Weber St and 8.3 to Ole Miss prior to those four games. -
The numbers are actually quite comparable in each of those 4 games and regarding Herbert if I recall right he was hurt later in the game ... but point taken there.FremontTroll said:
Yes, they did well against Browning even though that game was never close and they managed to knock Herbert out and draw Alie which was obviously beneficial.Tequilla said:I also know that Cal had some significant injuries on the defensive end of the ball towards the back half of the year as their numbers look far different when you look at the 1st half of the season to the 2nd half.
In games against USC, Oregon, Washington, and Washington St, Cal's numbers were as follows:
Yards per Attempt = 5.9
Yards per Completion = 8.7
Completion % = 68.0%
For perspective, the leading totals for the conference in Yards per Attempt/Completion were:
Yards per Attempt = 6.3 (Washington)
Yards per Completion = 9.8 (Washington)
But now it feels like you are cherry picking data to fit a preformed narrative.
They also gave up 9.6 ypa to Weber St and 8.3 to Ole Miss prior to those four games.
Against Ole Miss, they did a tremendous job of sitting back and waiting for opportunities for turnovers particularly in tight spaces.
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Yeah, every year under Carroll the Seahawks are one of the teams who blitz the least in the NFL.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Nah they brought a lot of 5 man pressures. Like Seattle does.dnc said:
Obviously that's what the stats mean. That's not what you expect out of a team that blitzes a lot though. Heavy blitzing means you're primarily going to be inan with your back turned to the QB and eyes on the receiver. Keeping guys in front of you and rallying up to make a tackle means you're in zone and keeping your eyes on the QB.Tequilla said:
What it also could mean is that they focused on keeping things in front of them and then rallying up to make a tackle. They struggled big time in 2016 with big plays.dnc said:
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017.
I think your hypothetis is right. That means it's unlikely they blitzed a ton though. -
Not what I was talking about in that poast. Bad communication on my part. When Seattle brings pressure they usually bring 5 they don't do it a lot obviously. I'm saying Cal brought a lot of 5 man pressures.dnc said:
Yeah, every year under Carroll the Seahawks are one of the teams who blitz the least in the NFL.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Nah they brought a lot of 5 man pressures. Like Seattle does.dnc said:
Obviously that's what the stats mean. That's not what you expect out of a team that blitzes a lot though. Heavy blitzing means you're primarily going to be inan with your back turned to the QB and eyes on the receiver. Keeping guys in front of you and rallying up to make a tackle means you're in zone and keeping your eyes on the QB.Tequilla said:
What it also could mean is that they focused on keeping things in front of them and then rallying up to make a tackle. They struggled big time in 2016 with big plays.dnc said:
link?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They blitzed a hell of a lot more.dnc said:
They had 10 more sacks in 2017 than 2016.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I think their DBs improved a shit ton. They basically raped Darnold for 3 quarters. Also Cal's pass rush was dick besides Looney.dnc said:
I don't think this is necessarily true but I know Wilcox damn well couldn't adjust when he coached here so this may well be the case at Cal.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I know but they did this against us as well. Defenses run the same schemes against all teams pretty much. They just make slight adjustments to it to fit the style of team they play. Offenses are more adaptable to the defense they play. Defense is about identity thus their isn't a whole lot of scheme changing on that side.dnc said:
One game doesn't mean anything on a season over season analysis.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
They played a lot of cover 1 variants to get an extra safety in the box. They mixed it up with cover 2. Watch the SC game.dnc said:
Bullshit. Stats mean a lot. They don't mean everything, and if Cal really did sell out to stop the run and maintained an equal pass defense then that's impressive. I have a hard time believing you watched more than a couple Cal games in 2016 and 2017 though. I doubt @BearsWiin even did that shit.Dennis_DeYoung said:Stats don't mean fucking shit.
This shit doesn't mean anything. The guys is a boss coach. If you watched the games from this year to last (which I did), then you would understand.
If you think receiving stats tell you the whole story about how good DBs are playing you are crazy.
Alexander is really good. Stats are for losers.
Think of this another way, Cal's pass defense numbers didn't improve from 2016 to 2017 and they didn't have John Ross to rape them in 2017.
Might well be explainable, but that's scary chit.
One would expect teams who blitz a lot to give up a lower percentage of completions (throwaways, QB's hit when they throw, rushed passes), but give up more yards per completion when they hit the passes.
This is the opposite of what we see from 2016 - 2017.
Doesn't mean it's not possible, but color me highly skeptical that you have any actual idea how often Cal blitzed in either 2016 or 2017.
I think your hypothetis is right. That means it's unlikely they blitzed a ton though. -
Tequilla said:
I don't feel like finding the thread where this was brought up, but consensus would be that if/when Lake eventually leaves UW that Alexander will be his replacement. The question/comment was brought up questioning Alexander's coaching chops.
Cal's passing game made some fairly material improvements in 2017 with Alexander (stats Pac 12 games only):
Yards per Pass Attempt
2017: 7.77 (10th in conference)
2016: 7.76 (7th in conference)
Yards per Pass Completion
2017: 11.39 (4th in conference)
2016: 12.75 (10th in conference)
Completion %
2017: 68.2% (12th in conference)
2016: 60.9% (8th in conference)
Turnovers
2017: 15 (5th in conference)
2016: 11 (10th in conference)
Teq Analysis
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