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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    tick tick tick

    Hence the pivot to sex as a weapon. Russia is over. There was never any there there. The dems will be lucky to stay out of jail.


    The party of Bubba now going all moral majority is far more entertaining anyway
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    They got a guy to plead guilty to lying to one of the assclowns that is going to save us from Trump

    They used a fake dossier paid for by Clinton to open an investigation that had them wire tap the opponent.

    Ken Starr got POTUS disbarred
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Clinton wasn't disbarred. He had his Arkansas license suspended for 5 years and withdrew his license to practice in front of the US Supreme Court.

    A felony conviction is a bigger deal.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited December 2017
    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    No it won't because the courts can no longer be trusted to do their job impartially. They don't even fucking understand the basic premise that the President has the right to decide who does and doesn't come into the country. The courts have become a far left dreckfest sham and deserve no trust or respect.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    You need more than an insurance policy...apparently you also need a ham radio license.

    http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=12382876


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    We're arguing over is again. Your pals at Scopes even say I am "mostly true" In typical Bubba fashion he skirted around the law but...https://snopes.com/bill-clinton-fined-and-disbarred-over-the-monica-lewinsky-scandal/


    On 26 July 2016, shortly after Bill Clinton took the stage at the Democratic National Convention to make the case that his wife Hillary Clinton should be the next President of the United States, an image purportedly listing the various fines and consequences he suffered for lying under oath during the Monica Lewinsky scandal showed up on social media.

    The list displayed above is mostly accurate, although some of the claims deserve extra clarification:

    Bill Clinton was disbarred from practicing law in Arkansas and was also disbarred from practicing law in front of the Supreme Court over the Lewinsky incident.

    While Clinton can no longer practice law in front of the highest court, it’s not accurate to say that he was disbarred from either the Supreme Court or from practicing law in Arkansas. Clinton’s license was suspended in Arkansas, but he was not disbarred, and while Clinton did face the possibility of being barred from arguing in front the U.S. Supreme Court, he resigned before the ruling was handed down.

    On his last day in office in 2001, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his Arkansas law license in order to head off any criminal charges for lying under oath about his relationship with Lewinsky. Clinton has been eligible to seek reinstatement of his license since 2006, but as of 2013 he had not applied to do so.

    Shortly after Clinton’s license was suspended in Arkansas, the U.S. Supreme Court suspended Clinton from presenting cases in front of the highest court (which he had never done) and gave him 40 days to contest his disbarment (which Clinton did not do). Instead, he resigned from the Supreme Court bar:


    That is far more than Flynn. Flynn should withdraw his plea and take the fucker to court
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I'm on team LIFPO
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited December 2017

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    No it won't because the courts can no longer be trusted to do their job impartially. They don't even fucking understand the basic premise that the President has the right to decide who does and doesn't come into the country. The courts have become a far left dreckfest sham and deserve no trust or respect.
    Oh God, now we're getting our civics lesson from an Oregon hillbilly who was hanging paper like a Brown Shirt for a child molester.

    So, now, we're just dispensing with the judicial branch because some idiot who didn't ever go to college thinks "they" can't be trusted? The same idiot that doesn't understand that even the President has to act within the boundaries of the federal constitution as interpreted and decided by the federal courts? You know, the system of government we've had in place here for a few years?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    No it won't because the courts can no longer be trusted to do their job impartially. They don't even fucking understand the basic premise that the President has the right to decide who does and doesn't come into the country. The courts have become a far left dreckfest sham and deserve no trust or respect.
    Oh God, now we're getting our civics lesson from an Oregon hillbilly who was hanging paper like a Brown Shirt for a child molester.

    So, now, we're just dispensing with the judicial branch because some idiot who didn't ever go to college thinks "they" can't be trusted? The same idiot that doesn't understand that even the President has to act within the boundaries of the federal constitution as interpreted and decided by the federal courts? You know, the system of government we've had in place here for a few years?
    Glad you agree his bans were lawful. Sorry you didn't see an activist judge appointed by Obama (IIRC) stopping Trump with no basis in law.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254

    You need more than an insurance policy...apparently you also need a ham radio license.

    http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=12382876


    Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS and had history with the CIA. The ham radio allowed her to communicate with Steele on the phony dossier without communications being intercepted.

    Or maybe she was just taking up a new hobby.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    Stupid circular and non-coherent logic. First, this isn't the mob its legal political parties. The only reason to have a "special council" in the first place is to remove the appearance of bias in the investigation...if you are saying that's not important than you are admitting there shouldn't be a special council at all.

    Mueller didn't do shit until the IG gave him documented info...you think they spent a year plus texting and talking this type of stuff but magically shut up for the last almost year they have been working around him? Really?

    And I'm assuming in the interview process they were asked about bias...they either disclosed it (at which point he shouldn't have hired them) or lied about it (which should put them in legal jeopardy but won't because those things don't ever seem to happen)...either way it won't be interesting because nothing will happen to them.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    No it won't because the courts can no longer be trusted to do their job impartially. They don't even fucking understand the basic premise that the President has the right to decide who does and doesn't come into the country. The courts have become a far left dreckfest sham and deserve no trust or respect.
    Oh God, now we're getting our civics lesson from an Oregon hillbilly who was hanging paper like a Brown Shirt for a child molester.

    So, now, we're just dispensing with the judicial branch because some idiot who didn't ever go to college thinks "they" can't be trusted? The same idiot that doesn't understand that even the President has to act within the boundaries of the federal constitution as interpreted and decided by the federal courts? You know, the system of government we've had in place here for a few years?
    President has the right to decide who enters the country and who doesn't. Are you disputing that fact, retard? You aren't very bright are you?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited December 2017

    We're arguing over is again. Your pals at Scopes even say I am "mostly true" In typical Bubba fashion he skirted around the law but...https://snopes.com/bill-clinton-fined-and-disbarred-over-the-monica-lewinsky-scandal/


    On 26 July 2016, shortly after Bill Clinton took the stage at the Democratic National Convention to make the case that his wife Hillary Clinton should be the next President of the United States, an image purportedly listing the various fines and consequences he suffered for lying under oath during the Monica Lewinsky scandal showed up on social media.

    The list displayed above is mostly accurate, although some of the claims deserve extra clarification:

    Bill Clinton was disbarred from practicing law in Arkansas and was also disbarred from practicing law in front of the Supreme Court over the Lewinsky incident.

    While Clinton can no longer practice law in front of the highest court, it’s not accurate to say that he was disbarred from either the Supreme Court or from practicing law in Arkansas. Clinton’s license was suspended in Arkansas, but he was not disbarred, and while Clinton did face the possibility of being barred from arguing in front the U.S. Supreme Court, he resigned before the ruling was handed down.

    On his last day in office in 2001, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his Arkansas law license in order to head off any criminal charges for lying under oath about his relationship with Lewinsky. Clinton has been eligible to seek reinstatement of his license since 2006, but as of 2013 he had not applied to do so.

    Shortly after Clinton’s license was suspended in Arkansas, the U.S. Supreme Court suspended Clinton from presenting cases in front of the highest court (which he had never done) and gave him 40 days to contest his disbarment (which Clinton did not do). Instead, he resigned from the Supreme Court bar:


    That is far more than Flynn. Flynn should withdraw his plea and take the fucker to court

    Clinton deserved worse than he got. He survived somewhat in tact, but didn't deserve to IMO.

    Whether it's worse than Flynn, I can't say; they're very different contexts with the only comparable facts being that they lied and could be found guilty of obstruction. That said, I'm somewhat persuaded by Dershowitz's argument that he (Flynn) was acting politically, not criminally. http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/362948-why-did-flynn-lie-and-why-did-mueller-charge-him-with-lying. OBK should read this too, even though I'm sure he's uncomfortable trusting the guy who wrote it. Flynn, the argument goes, didn't have to lie; that he may have thought he was committing a crime doesn't make it a crime. So, we can at least say of Flynn that he's a little stupid and somewhat untrustworthy.

    As to the underlying thing about which each man was lying ... fun and games in the WH with a subordinate and greasing a Russian ambassador about a UN resolution, people will have to decide that for themselves. I would lean toward Clinton. I don't think he and Hillary are quite the white collar mafia people dream them to be, but his judgment during his years in the WH and as Gov. of Arkansas was deplorable (see what I did there?)

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    #metoo attorneys working overtime @Tugtavern today
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    doogie said:

    #metoo attorneys working overtime @Tugtavern today

    Apparently you've dispensed with actual reading of the posts, thus arguing with yourself and looking even dumber than usual.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited December 2017
    I call for genocide against all attorneys seeking political office. They need to go. Far too many of them in government. Hang them upside down and light them on fire. They don't represent the basic fabric of society, the people. Lets get representatives that come from other, less corrupt professions into office.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    I call for genocide against all attorneys seeking political office. They need to go. Far too many of them in government. Hang them upside down and light them on fire. They don't represent the basic fabric of society, the people. Lets get representatives that come from other, less corrupt professions into office.

    Great post!
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Like bottled water delivery guys and Amazon-Flex drivers
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited December 2017
    Derek, Jesus man.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    No it won't because the courts can no longer be trusted to do their job impartially. They don't even fucking understand the basic premise that the President has the right to decide who does and doesn't come into the country. The courts have become a far left dreckfest sham and deserve no trust or respect.
    Oh God, now we're getting our civics lesson from an Oregon hillbilly who was hanging paper like a Brown Shirt for a child molester.

    So, now, we're just dispensing with the judicial branch because some idiot who didn't ever go to college thinks "they" can't be trusted? The same idiot that doesn't understand that even the President has to act within the boundaries of the federal constitution as interpreted and decided by the federal courts? You know, the system of government we've had in place here for a few years?
    Glad you agree his bans were lawful. Sorry you didn't see an activist judge appointed by Obama (IIRC) stopping Trump with no basis in law.
    Which version are we talking about?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter
    If it weren't for attorneys, we wouldn't need attorneys.
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958
    edited December 2017
    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    It isn't a matter of disliking Trump. If they had just called Trump an idiot that is one thing. But suggesting you are going to protect the country from Trump being president, having an insurance policy in case he is, certainly looks bad and you would have to be a partisan not to see that (just as the Trump team meeting Russians looks bad or the Flynn lying to the FBI looks bad). This does not mean they were biased in what facts they discovered. But when another investigator's wife was working for Fusion GPS and the head of Fusion GPS said that investigator had called him in to talk about the Russian investigation, then it is not a good look for the DOJ and FBI.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    It isn't a matter of disliking Trump. If they had just called Trump an idiot that is one thing. But suggesting you are going to protect the country from Trump being president, having an insurance policy in case he is, certainly looks bad and you would have to be a partisan not to see that (just as the Trump team meeting Russians looks bad or the Flynn lying to the FBI looks bad). This does not mean they were biased in what facts they discovered. But when another investigator's wife was working for Fusion GPS and the head of Fusion GPS said that investigator had called him in to talk about the Russian investigation, then it is not a good look for the DOJ and FBI.
    The Republic of California could use talented people like Peter Strzok. When the time comes, hopefully soon, it will be good to know that civil liberties and civil society will be protected in the Golden Country.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Derek, Jesus man.

    Run and cry to Derek like a pussy. It's what you are.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    AZDuck said:

    This is going to sound crazy, but people who investigate the Mafia are allowed to dislike the Mafia. I also like how Muller pulled these folks off the case a long time back, before the media got involved.

    If there's any evidence that the investigations have been tainted by bias or influence, that will be an issue for the courts.

    I'm seeing an investigation that has racked up a couple of indictments and two convictions, which is better than Ken Starr's fishing expedition was able to do in the 1990's, and the Klinton Krime Konspiracy was killing people (and allegedly still are #neverforgetseth)

    It isn't a matter of disliking Trump. If they had just called Trump an idiot that is one thing. But suggesting you are going to protect the country from Trump being president, having an insurance policy in case he is, certainly looks bad and you would have to be a partisan not to see that (just as the Trump team meeting Russians looks bad or the Flynn lying to the FBI looks bad). This does not mean they were biased in what facts they discovered. But when another investigator's wife was working for Fusion GPS and the head of Fusion GPS said that investigator had called him in to talk about the Russian investigation, then it is not a good look for the DOJ and FBI.
    The Republic of California could use talented people like Peter Strzok. When the time comes, hopefully soon, it will be good to know that civil liberties and civil society will be protected in the Golden Country.
    Peter Strzok should be shot by a firing squad like the traitor that he is.