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Great idea. Get politics out of the intelligence business

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    Secret schmecret. No crime here. Unless you're not Hillary Clinton and company. FBI said so!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/ex-nsa-employee-admits-kept-top-secret-information-at-home.html
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Doogie forgets that Trump gets his information from Fox and friends.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    > @AZDuck said:
    > I wanna know about these deep state senior civil service moles that were planted with the idea of popping up when/if Donald Trump was elected President.

    Yeah? Are they like GS-200's?

    I can assure you no one making under $200k a year is going to do anything shady for anyone unless there is a big time bidder. The only cases of this are contracting workers and foreign agents. Neither care about our US President.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    I wanna know about these deep state senior civil service moles that were planted with the idea of popping up when/if Donald Trump was elected President.

    HondoFS is #stillhere

    HTH
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    I wanna know about these deep state senior civil service moles that were planted with the idea of popping up when/if Donald Trump was elected President.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/11/wife-demoted-doj-official-worked-for-firm-behind-anti-trump-dossier.html
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Bible. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Solomon does business than anything Derek is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Ironically enough, I'm reading Moby Dick. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Maury Povich does business than anything Dave Grohl is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mad_Son said:

    Ironically enough, I'm reading Moby Dick. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Maury Povich does business than anything Dave Grohl is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.

    Agree.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
    You like your presidents to tell private businesses what to do and tweet arguments telling the media what they can and can't report on.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
    Ok, so Trump wants his secret intelligence agency... literally what this thread is about... doesn't like having people reporting independent of him.

    Here is a short list of the ways he derides and calls for reduction of free speech from a few months ago to start...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/a-brief-history-of-donald-trumps-mixed-messages-on-freedom-of-speech/2017/09/28/dd44160c-a3b6-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    It isn’t what this thread is about but, nice rant anyway.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    2001400ex said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
    You like your presidents to tell private businesses what to do and tweet arguments telling the media what they can and can't report on.
    He can tell them these things and tweet all he wants to. It's not the same as a law forcing them to do what he wants them to do. HTH.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
    Ok, so Trump wants his secret intelligence agency... literally what this thread is about... doesn't like having people reporting independent of him.

    Here is a short list of the ways he derides and calls for reduction of free speech from a few months ago to start...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/a-brief-history-of-donald-trumps-mixed-messages-on-freedom-of-speech/2017/09/28/dd44160c-a3b6-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html
    If you want to talk about supression of free speech, you need look no further than California, which criminalizes certain speech now with fines or jail time. Just like Canada. The left did that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Who is suppressing idea exchange? I hate anyone who tries to suppress free speech. That's why I fucking hate the left so strongly.
    Ok, so Trump wants his secret intelligence agency... literally what this thread is about... doesn't like having people reporting independent of him.

    Here is a short list of the ways he derides and calls for reduction of free speech from a few months ago to start...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/a-brief-history-of-donald-trumps-mixed-messages-on-freedom-of-speech/2017/09/28/dd44160c-a3b6-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html
    If you want to talk about supression of free speech, you need look no further than California, which criminalizes certain speech now with fines or jail time. Just like Canada. The left did that.
    It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:


    Ironically enough, I'm reading The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. (Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria) I find far more similarities with how Trump does business than anything anyone who cares about freedom is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.



    Except for the small, annoying detail that Hitler killed millions of people while conducting his business, and Trump killed no one. I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
    Is that all you know about Hitler? Do you know fascism is? Do you understand the systematic oppression of idea-exchange. You strike me as someone who would pretend to care about the first amendment so I'd hope so.
    Flattered that you are single-handedly creating a new HCH meme out of my poast.


    Have you ever tried to express an idea to a leftist that is different than theirs? (Like when Hitler is on the cusp of heading into Austria?) The response is usually a systematic oppression of idea-exchange.


    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Ironically enough, I'm reading Dianetics. (L Ron Hubbard is on the cusp of heading into open waters) I find far more similarities with how Jim Jones does business than anything Charles Manson is doing. Frankly it's not even close.

    I know that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's true.