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puppylove_sugarsteel
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Just watched 2000 UW vs Erickson's OSU thugs on UWTV. Holy shit the beavs were good. This Beaver team was a field goal against UW away from a national title, the same team that hadn't been ranked in 30 years. Nobody was going to beat this team had they got past UW (Nasty defense, potent offense).
Fuck, Ochocinco was just one of three very good WR's. Simonton, Pat McCall(who was better than Simonton, which says a lot), Martin Mauer at TE and those fucking wicked DE's.
Erickson's beavs beat down Notre Dame in the fiesta bowl like they were a JV team (basically 50-0) That's a national title team Erickson WAS a good coach, and that team was good enough for a split vote, right along with #3 Washington., who got fucked by east coast bias!
Fuck, Ochocinco was just one of three very good WR's. Simonton, Pat McCall(who was better than Simonton, which says a lot), Martin Mauer at TE and those fucking wicked DE's.
Erickson's beavs beat down Notre Dame in the fiesta bowl like they were a JV team (basically 50-0) That's a national title team Erickson WAS a good coach, and that team was good enough for a split vote, right along with #3 Washington., who got fucked by east coast bias!
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National title team? They lost to UW.
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I once had similar thoughts about Erickson....... until I travelled all the way to Miami to watch the Whammy. I believe Erickson as a college coach moved around a lot because he typically couldn't recruit worth spit, while he could do a good job with somebody else's talent....... such as Riley's at Oregon State.
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Oregon State was loaded in 2000. That was a hell of a game. You are right about nobody being able to beat them if they got past UW. They were nasty!
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well the reason I brought it up is because Erickson took an OSU team that hadn't been ranked in 30 years, to a BCS bowl and a field goal miss from a national title. NO FUCKING WAY ERICKSON WOULD BE 7-6 IN YEAR 4, let alone year 3.
We use one 0-12 season as an excuse for sucking 4 years later. Good Lord, imagine losing for 30 straight years, and then going to a BCS bowl in year two? That's coaching. We got to the Las Vegas bowl in year 4. Yippie fucking skippie Sark. -
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
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****** has band-geek buddies?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
Is having a band-geek buddy as important as having a Comcast guy?
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Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
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But you're conveniently forgetting that the Pac 12 >> Big 12MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
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Yes, silly me.DerekJohnson said:
But you're conveniently forgetting that the Pac 12 >> Big 12MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
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Damone is a level 47 assassin class Wood Elf with +5 armor regen and a rare helm of bones 33% damage multiplier...respect da skillz, faggot. Clickity-clack!puppylove_sugarsteel said:
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
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I have no idea what you just said.ThomasFremont said:
Damone is a level 47 assassin class Wood Elf with +5 armor regen and a rare helm of bones 33% damage multiplier...respect da skillz, faggot. Clickity-clack!puppylove_sugarsteel said:
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
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Yeah right, bro...tell it to your D&D band geek friends (ROFL)MikeDamone said:
I have no idea what you just said.ThomasFremont said:
Damone is a level 47 assassin class Wood Elf with +5 armor regen and a rare helm of bones 33% damage multiplier...respect da skillz, faggot. Clickity-clack!puppylove_sugarsteel said:
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
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WhateverThomasFremont said:
Yeah right, bro...tell it to your D&D band geek friends (ROFL)MikeDamone said:
I have no idea what you just said.ThomasFremont said:
Damone is a level 47 assassin class Wood Elf with +5 armor regen and a rare helm of bones 33% damage multiplier...respect da skillz, faggot. Clickity-clack!puppylove_sugarsteel said:
UW finished #3 in the country Damone. You were prolly playing D&D with your band-geek buddies back then. UW was pretty good and worthy of NC votesMikeDamone said:National title team? They lost to UW.
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True, but the BCS "NC" game selection was controversial. Oklahoma was unbeaten, an easy selection. However, as I'm sure you recall, FSU, Miami, and UW were all conference champions with one loss. And, UW beat Miami, Miami beat FSU. Seems like the advantage should have gone to UW, yet FSU got the nod over both UW and Miami. Fucked up system for sure.MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
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I argued the same when it happened, but with the benefit of hindsight both FSU and Miami were far superior teams to UW (and had far superior seasons).Southerndawg said:
True, but the BCS "NC" game selection was controversial. Oklahoma was unbeaten, an easy selection. However, as I'm sure you recall, FSU, Miami, and UW were all conference champions with one loss. And, UW beat Miami, Miami beat FSU. Seems like the advantage should have gone to UW, yet FSU got the nod over both UW and Miami. Fucked up system for sure.MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
UW's entire argument hinged on the fact we beat Miami in the second game of the year with a young QB in his first road game.
UW had the worst loss of the three, and the worst margin of victory, with similar schedules.
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Very debatable. Miami and FSU had more talent that UW, but that shouldn't matter. How did they have far superior seasons? UW's only loss was a road game to a top 10 team (Oregon). UW beat two top 10 teams (Miami, Oregon St). Miami did as well (FSU, Virginia Tech). Florida State had only one top 10 win (Florida.) Florida State making it before Miami and UW is bullshit, and UW had a legitimate case that they deserved to be in the BCS Championship because they beat Miami when they played. Point differential doesn't mean much to me when the teams have already played head to head.HillsboroDuck said:
I argued the same when it happened, but with the benefit of hindsight both FSU and Miami were far superior teams to UW (and had far superior seasons).Southerndawg said:
True, but the BCS "NC" game selection was controversial. Oklahoma was unbeaten, an easy selection. However, as I'm sure you recall, FSU, Miami, and UW were all conference champions with one loss. And, UW beat Miami, Miami beat FSU. Seems like the advantage should have gone to UW, yet FSU got the nod over both UW and Miami. Fucked up system for sure.MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
UW's entire argument hinged on the fact we beat Miami in the second game of the year with a young QB in his first road game.
UW had the worst loss of the three, and the worst margin of victory, with similar schedules.
I'm glad we got to beat Drew Brees in the RB rather than get run over in the NC game..
Oklahoma beat FSU 13-2 in the title game. I know they were loaded on defense, but I have a really hard time believing UW would get shut out on offense like FSU did. Tui would have willed us to a couple of scores. It would have been a good game... What could have been.
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There is no way to know what would have happened in a UW-Oklahoma game that year. Miami had the best team in the country in terms of talent, no doubt about that. I attended a few games played by most of that group of Canes including a game in the Swamp where they absolutely stole the Gators manhood. They had a string of first round draft picks. But, UW did beat them in 2000 and they did it with very physical play. Just my 0.02, but head to head play trumps the other factors you've mentioned. I still think UW deserved to play Oklahoma and also believe that that UW team matched up better against Oklahoma than that FSU team did.HillsboroDuck said:
I argued the same when it happened, but with the benefit of hindsight both FSU and Miami were far superior teams to UW (and had far superior seasons).Southerndawg said:
True, but the BCS "NC" game selection was controversial. Oklahoma was unbeaten, an easy selection. However, as I'm sure you recall, FSU, Miami, and UW were all conference champions with one loss. And, UW beat Miami, Miami beat FSU. Seems like the advantage should have gone to UW, yet FSU got the nod over both UW and Miami. Fucked up system for sure.MikeDamone said:Both Washington and OSU lost conference games that year. Neither deserved any first place votes. Oklahoma was 13-0. Stop being a dumbass.
UW's entire argument hinged on the fact we beat Miami in the second game of the year with a young QB in his first road game.
UW had the worst loss of the three, and the worst margin of victory, with similar schedules.
I'm glad we got to beat Drew Brees in the RB rather than get run over in the NC game..
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Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
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Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
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It cost them more than votes (they were 4th in both major polls) - UW was absolutely destroyed in the computers. UW was 10, 5 , 8 and 11 in the BCS computer poles (included one designed to show UW was the rightful NC in 1991). Compare that to Miami at 3, 3, 2 and 2, or FSU at 2, 1, 1 and 1.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
The truth is, outside of a few UW fans abusing the transitive property, we weren't even in the discussion for the title game in 2000.
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One thing I forgot about is that UW's loss to Oregon came after FSU and Miami's losses. After UW lost to Oregon, they were behind those two teams in the polls, and it stayed that way as all three teams won out their remaining games.
Edit: Not true. Just looked it up, and UW lost to Oregon on Sept. 30th. FSU lost the next week on Oct. 7th to Miami. -
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
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My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
HTH
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case closedRoadDawg55 said:
My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
HTH
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'nuff saidMikeDamone said:
case closedRoadDawg55 said:
My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
HTH
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Sho nuffHillsboroDuck said:
'nuff saidMikeDamone said:
case closedRoadDawg55 said:
My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
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The most overrated Dizzy Gillespie / Charlie Parker songRaceBannon said:
Sho nuffHillsboroDuck said:
'nuff saidMikeDamone said:
case closedRoadDawg55 said:
My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
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RaceBannon said:
Sho nuffHillsboroDuck said:
'nuff saidMikeDamone said:
case closedRoadDawg55 said:
My bad, just saw that Steelheader said that. However, since when does anything Steelheader says matter?MikeDamone said:
It was said that UW deserved some first place votes. They clearly did not.RoadDawg55 said:
Not sure what Oklahoma has to do with this. Nobody is arguing about them.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
HTH
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I prefer this one. Glasses are bitchin'. For those interested parties, Sho Nuff made the much balleyhooed "Badass of The Week" page. Here is the entry:
Sho'Nuff is the self-proclaimed "Shogun of Harlem" and the baddest mofo low-down around the town in the balls-out 80's blaxploitation/breakdance/kung-fu movie Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon.&nbps; He basically dresses up in his outrageous costume and goes around with his posse of eighties street thugs doing all sorts of crazy shit like trashing mom-and-pop pizza joints, destroying people in underground cage-matches and stuffing ten year-olds into garbage cans. At one point he even makes kung-fu master/Bruce Lee wannabe Leroy "kiss his converse" in front of his entire karate school. Sho'Nuff is a badass because while Leroy spends the whole movie bitching about attaining Zen or whatever and avoiding intimate physical contact with his rock star girlfriend like the plague, Sho spends his time trying to start shit with random people, growing his afro and being total wank to everyone he encounters. When he gets super-pissed he starts glowing red and kicking ass. A lot of people can't do that. His breakdancing kung-fu expert thug cronies help him out in these endeavors by constantly stroking his massive ego, kicking in windows and participating in Sho's signature monologue, which goes as follows:
Sho'Nuff: Am I the meanest?
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: Am I the prettiest?
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: Am I the baddest mo-fo, low-down, around this town?
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: Well, who am I?
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: Who am I?
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: I can’t hear you!
Gang: Sho'Nuff!
Sho'Nuff: The Shogun of Harlem!
Never say I don't bring REAL value to this board fuckers!
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The knock against Ohio State in 2002 was the same. No one gave them a chance against Miami in the MNC game, but they won the game. Point being winning pretty is important for votes but it's not the most reliable predictor nor should it have such heavy weighting.MikeDamone said:Oklahoma was 13-0. Simple fact. Case closed. UW lost to oregon and beat some very average to poor teams in less than dominating fashion. That cost them votes. End of discussion.
