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Elon Musk should have focused on battery technology.

doogie
doogie Member Posts: 15,072
edited November 2017 in Tug Tavern
His little government subsidized Tesla cars might have had a chance (with some design help so it didn’t look like an ‘88 Mazda), assuming he ever learned how to produce them at scale.


https://www.autoblog.com/2017/11/13/fisker-has-filed-patents-for-solid-state-batteries/

https://electrek.co/2017/11/14/fisker-solid-state-battery-breakthrough-electric-cars/
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Your obsession over Elon musk is noted.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2017
    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    The bill includes a provision to expand the “Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program” that is basically corporate welfare for electric-power vehicles, for the purpose of “reequipping, expanding, or establishing of a manufacturing facility” for them. Several companies that make electric cars have received money from this, including the now bankrupt Fisker Automotive, a company that also made the kind of luxury electric cars that Musk’s Tesla Motors makes. Fisker got a $529 million loan from the program. Since Tesla is expanding their manufacturing of electric cars, they will be getting more money from this program.

    https://www.redstate.com/diary/qstarweb/2016/04/22/federal-energy-bill-includes-corporate-welfare-elon-musk-companies/

    That bill that chose Fisker looks fairly bipartisan.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2016/s54
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Stop lying, again, hondo

    Obama chopped that loan off at the knees forcing Fisker into sudden bankruptcy at the behest of Musk. Then seized $50 million in assets.

    Guess what. Superior technology wins. Private money picked up that technology, advanced it, patented it, and will win.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited November 2017
    doogie said:

    Stop lying, again, hondo

    Obama chopped that loan off at the knees forcing Fisker into sudden bankruptcy at the behest of Musk. Then seized $50 million in assets.

    Guess what. Superior technology wins. Private money picked up that technology, advanced it, patented it, and will win.

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Google.com

    Thought you didn't have anything.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Haha I see you checked yeah lots of results in the first page huh
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Haha I see you checked yeah lots of results in the first page huh

    Embarrassing. Liar.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Electric cars are for fags.

    When it makes more sense in any possible way than non electric cars sure.

    But now it's just a sign that you're a douchebag
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2017
    and we keep finding things in here as we look around.

    Fisker filed for bankruptcy last week. Fisker Automotive had borrowed $192 million from the federal government, of which only $53 million will be repaid.
    By Randall Chase, AP Business Writer NOVEMBER 26, 2013


    ... Fisker, ...filed for bankruptcy protection last week, ending a long, downward spiral that began after it received a $529 million loan commitment from the US Department of Energy. Fisker drew $192 million on the Obama administration's green-energy loan before DOE officials suspended funding in 2011...
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
    Coal is probably the only thing you got for Christmas growing up. Is that why your such a lardass cunt?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    and we keep finding things in here as we look around.

    Fisker filed for bankruptcy last week. Fisker Automotive had borrowed $192 million from the federal government, of which only $53 million will be repaid.
    By Randall Chase, AP Business Writer NOVEMBER 26, 2013


    ... Fisker, ...filed for bankruptcy protection last week, ending a long, downward spiral that began after it received a $529 million loan commitment from the US Department of Energy. Fisker drew $192 million on the Obama administration's green-energy loan before DOE officials suspended funding in 2011...

    It's almost as if you don't know how to read dates. The bill I referenced was passed in 2016 and was supported by Republicans.

    Embarrassing. Liar.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Yes, your lying is quite embarrassing. You should stoP.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Yes, your lying is quite embarrassing. You should stoP.

    Troomps hate facts.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Like US patents? Or the loans you lied about knowing they never occurred?
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
    There is a whole lot of stupid in this comment, and that's before flea's little man disease kicked in.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
    Coal is probably the only thing you got for Christmas growing up. Is that why your such a lardass cunt?
    Christmas smack?

    Before Thanksgiving? Really???
    No kidding. What a faggot.

    He's just sore about me plowing his mom.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dflea said:

    dnc said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
    Coal is probably the only thing you got for Christmas growing up. Is that why your such a lardass cunt?
    Christmas smack?

    Before Thanksgiving? Really???
    No kidding. What a faggot.

    He's just sore about me plowing his mom.
    If you did your job, his mom would be sore too.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Government doesn’t pick winners and losers in a free market. Obama certainly tried but, backed the wrong innovator.

    Coal and I had a laugh right there Mr. Trump cockgobbler.

    You're such a fucking hypocrite asshole. Fuck off, doogie.
    There is a whole lot of stupid in this comment, and that's before flea's little man disease kicked in.
    Go wash the Trump jizz off your face and haul your ass to the 7-11 ,Sally.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I wish. Thanksgiving blows. Black Friday in particular.

    Christmas is the worst though. I am going to Mexico instead of seeing family.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club

    I wish. Thanksgiving blows. Black Friday in particular.

    Christmas is the worst though. I am going to Mexico instead of seeing family.

    You lying fuck bitchfork, your family is in Mexico
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    I wish. Thanksgiving blows. Black Friday in particular.

    Christmas is the worst though. I am going to Mexico instead of seeing family.

    4 days off from work....

    And some good grub, Not much hate dare if ya axe mi.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter
    Men drive diesel 4x4 trucks. No idea if there is really that many faggots toting purse dogs to buy these electric queer mobiles.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Sledog said:

    Men drive diesel 4x4 trucks. No idea if there is really that many faggots toting purse dogs to buy these electric queer mobiles.

    @CirrhosisDawg true
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Sledog said:

    Men drive diesel 4x4 trucks. No idea if there is really that many faggots toting purse dogs to buy these electric queer mobiles.

    @CirrhosisDawg true
    No, absolutely false.

    @Sledog is not a man.