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How Bowe Bergdahl Is Going to Get Acquitted

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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    AZDuck said:

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    This guy is a fucking disgrace. My only regret is I didn't bomb whatever shithole they had you in.

    Fucking air power can never get the job done.
    Disagree. I just needed a better targeting package.

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    Fucker on the left is still standing. What were they using, blanks?
    pawz said:

    Query: How many participating in this thread *knows* what @AZDuck does for a living?


    Personally, I'm hanging on every word. It's likely that even those among you who have served (TYFYS, BTW) do NOT understand this as well as our resident quook fren.

    I find the whole concept of UCI fascinating because of how inherently prevalent exertion of authority is inside the SOP of military hierarchy. AND that it can be claimed after you have a confession or a guilty verdict?

    The way I read it, you might be able to claim UCI in all but the most extreme cases.

    I should have been an attorney. FMFYFE

    UCI isn't super easy to prove up. Most cases don't have much, if any, command input.

    Obama caused a minor shitstorm with some public comments he made about sexual assault in the military. There was a flurry of UCI motions in sex assault cases. But none of them really got very far.

    There's an "actual prejudice" test. But the more high-profile the case, and the more specific the statements of the commander, the easier it becomes to demonstrate that the accused was prejudiced. So when the CinC starts popping off about how dumbass should be summarily executed at dawn and that the judge fucked up and the MJ system is all fucked up, well, that's just begging for it.
    So when the CIC had the kick-ass Rose Garden presser with Daddy Bergdhal, it pretty much guaranteed a UCI acquittal?
    @AZDuck ?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    AZDuck said:

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    This guy is a fucking disgrace. My only regret is I didn't bomb whatever shithole they had you in.

    Fucking air power can never get the job done.
    Disagree. I just needed a better targeting package.

    image
    Fucker on the left is still standing. What were they using, blanks?
    pawz said:

    Query: How many participating in this thread *knows* what @AZDuck does for a living?


    Personally, I'm hanging on every word. It's likely that even those among you who have served (TYFYS, BTW) do NOT understand this as well as our resident quook fren.

    I find the whole concept of UCI fascinating because of how inherently prevalent exertion of authority is inside the SOP of military hierarchy. AND that it can be claimed after you have a confession or a guilty verdict?

    The way I read it, you might be able to claim UCI in all but the most extreme cases.

    I should have been an attorney. FMFYFE

    UCI isn't super easy to prove up. Most cases don't have much, if any, command input.

    Obama caused a minor shitstorm with some public comments he made about sexual assault in the military. There was a flurry of UCI motions in sex assault cases. But none of them really got very far.

    There's an "actual prejudice" test. But the more high-profile the case, and the more specific the statements of the commander, the easier it becomes to demonstrate that the accused was prejudiced. So when the CinC starts popping off about how dumbass should be summarily executed at dawn and that the judge fucked up and the MJ system is all fucked up, well, that's just begging for it.
    So when the CIC had the kick-ass Rose Garden presser with Daddy Bergdhal, it pretty much guaranteed a UCI acquittal?
    @AZDuck ?
    Obummer isn't President anymore.

    Also, filing a UCI motion is a right held by the Accused. If the Government is prejudiced in a case, they could file an interlocutory appeal under Article 62 for relief from the military appellate courts. You can also take a look at RCM 104, and see if you think anything there applies. I don't think anything does in that instance.

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Gee, too bad, pawz. You were almost able to make this about Obama rather than the current dumbfuck in chief.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    I have no idea what @AZDuck is talking about other than determining he is a JAG.

    And Kathryn Bell was in JAG and she was smoking hot.

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    Her nude video in Hotline is brb, yo shit. Google it yourself, motherfuckers.



    she's um, out of uniform
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,500 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    I have no idea what @AZDuck is talking about other than determining he is a JAG.

    And Kathryn Bell was in JAG and she was smoking hot.

    image

    Her nude video in Hotline is brb, yo shit. Google it yourself, motherfuckers.



    she's um, out of uniform
    Don't ask, don't tell.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    doogie said:

    I’m not conflicted. Easy case. Soldiers who DID their duties DIED while searching for an anti-American deserter. Died, not hurt.

    If allowed to stand, this political stunt to intentionally harm the Military will do damage

    Two people got chopped in half by a C-17 flap during maintenance because someone forgot to see if anyone was in there.

    It's the military, people die all the time. ALL the time. Two guys carrying out a lawful order to burn shit barrels that get killed counts the same as two guys carrying out lawful orders to find someone and getting killed.

    Your argument is irrelevant here, like all of your arguments.