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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2017
    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    This injustice cannot stand. Trump needs to act. What plan do you propose? How do you mobilize the support to make it happen?
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Trump's act is already tiresome. He hasn't done anything other than becoming super fucking annoying to everyone on both sides.

    He was here a few weeks back holding a rally for Luther Strange. Then Luther got smashed the next day in the vote. If Bama doesn't care what Donnie says anymore then you could imagine what every swing state is like.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2017
    Tear the whole rotten thing down and start again. America still has a solid foundation, it's people, the rest is trash. Trump should spend the next 3-7 years delegitimizing, dismantling and destroying every last vestige of the current establishment. Leave nothing standing. Raze it to the fucking ground. Then start anew. No republicans, no democrats, ban all political parties for a time and a season to see how that works. Return power to the people, take it away from the parties. George Washington himself warned of the dangers of political parties. Term limits. Trash like Pelosi have been in government since 1987. 1980 fucking 7. 30 years. Corruption has ample space to fester. It was never meant to be that way.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Tear the whole rotten thing down and start again. America still has a solid foundation, it's people, the rest is trash. Trump should spend the next 3-7 years delegitimizing, dismantling and destroying every last vestige of the current establishment. Leave nothing standing. Raze it to the fucking ground. Then start anew. No republicans, no democrats, ban all political parties for a time and a season to see how that works. George Washington himself warned of dangers political parties. Term limits. Trash like Pelosi have been in government since 1987. 1980 fucking 7. 30 years. Corruption has ample space to fester. It was never meant to be that way.

    So did Nacy win a 30 year term? You mean the people voted for her time after time?

    It's almost like a government for the people by the people...

    Tell me more about this dictator idea you have. It sounds like a gas!
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Mosster47 said:

    Tear the whole rotten thing down and start again. America still has a solid foundation, it's people, the rest is trash. Trump should spend the next 3-7 years delegitimizing, dismantling and destroying every last vestige of the current establishment. Leave nothing standing. Raze it to the fucking ground. Then start anew. No republicans, no democrats, ban all political parties for a time and a season to see how that works. George Washington himself warned of dangers political parties. Term limits. Trash like Pelosi have been in government since 1987. 1980 fucking 7. 30 years. Corruption has ample space to fester. It was never meant to be that way.

    So did Nacy win a 30 year term? You mean the people voted for her time after time?

    It's almost like a government for the people by the people...

    Tell me more about this dictator idea you have. It sounds like a gas!
    What is it about term limits that you don't understand?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Tear the whole rotten thing down and start again. America still has a solid foundation, it's people, the rest is trash. Trump should spend the next 3-7 years delegitimizing, dismantling and destroying every last vestige of the current establishment. Leave nothing standing. Raze it to the fucking ground. Then start anew. No republicans, no democrats, ban all political parties for a time and a season to see how that works. Return power to the people, take it away from the parties. George Washington himself warned of the dangers of political parties. Term limits. Trash like Pelosi have been in government since 1987. 1980 fucking 7. 30 years. Corruption has ample space to fester. It was never meant to be that way.

    Take charge. Lead. Or are you a faggott?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    What I'm implying that you are missing.... Trump is the news. He has access to everything he wants. He can instruct the AG to investigate this. Republicans, who owns both houses of Congress, can investigate this. They spent how many years investigating Benghazi and emails? You'd think, if there were truth to what Fox news is reporting and Trump is parroting, that the Republican controlled AG or Congress would be all over it like stink on shit.

    But you are too dumb and too partisan to look past the fact that your news source drills it and at Trump parrots it, so it must be true.

    Nice rants tho, rather entertaining.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    2001400ex said:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    What I'm implying that you are missing.... Trump is the news. He has access to everything he wants. He can instruct the AG to investigate this. Republicans, who owns both houses of Congress, can investigate this. They spent how many years investigating Benghazi and emails? You'd think, if there were truth to what Fox news is reporting and Trump is parroting, that the Republican controlled AG or Congress would be all over it like stink on shit.

    But you are too dumb and too partisan to look past the fact that your news source drills it and at Trump parrots it, so it must be true.

    Nice rants tho, rather entertaining.
    Who ever said the republicans can be trusted to investigate corruption of any kind, fucktard? They are nearly as repulsive as the democrats and equally deserving of the guillotine.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    What I'm implying that you are missing.... Trump is the news. He has access to everything he wants. He can instruct the AG to investigate this. Republicans, who owns both houses of Congress, can investigate this. They spent how many years investigating Benghazi and emails? You'd think, if there were truth to what Fox news is reporting and Trump is parroting, that the Republican controlled AG or Congress would be all over it like stink on shit.

    But you are too dumb and too partisan to look past the fact that your news source drills it and at Trump parrots it, so it must be true.

    Nice rants tho, rather entertaining.
    Who ever said the republicans can be trusted to investigate corruption of any kind, fucktard? They are nearly as repulsive as the democrats and equally deserving of the guillotine.
    That's courage right there. To say they after all the wasted investigations on Benghazi and emails.

    Besides, who gives a shit? Hillary and Obama are both irrelevant now. Republicans have what they wanted, full control of all 3 divisions. And they still can't pass anything on their agenda. Nice way to keep the promises to their voters.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    What I'm implying that you are missing.... Trump is the news. He has access to everything he wants. He can instruct the AG to investigate this. Republicans, who owns both houses of Congress, can investigate this. They spent how many years investigating Benghazi and emails? You'd think, if there were truth to what Fox news is reporting and Trump is parroting, that the Republican controlled AG or Congress would be all over it like stink on shit.

    But you are too dumb and too partisan to look past the fact that your news source drills it and at Trump parrots it, so it must be true.

    Nice rants tho, rather entertaining.
    Who ever said the republicans can be trusted to investigate corruption of any kind, fucktard? They are nearly as repulsive as the democrats and equally deserving of the guillotine.
    That's courage right there. To say they after all the wasted investigations on Benghazi and emails.

    Besides, who gives a shit? Hillary and Obama are both irrelevant now. Republicans have what they wanted, full control of all 3 divisions. And they still can't pass anything on their agenda. Nice way to keep the promises to their voters.
    Both criminals and the statute of limitations hasn't run out. Jail time would be nice for both of them.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    edited October 2017

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    Term limits? Pay, vacation, lobbying limits? You are as gay as Dennis hastert.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    BearsWiin said:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    It actually pretty amazing how you can pack so much stupid into a relatively short post.
    Forever the bored motto.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2017

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
    Oh ok, so you would rather have people taking bribes from special interests while consolidating their own personal power for 30 plus years. Got it. Hallmark of a true democracy right there.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
    Oh ok, so you would rather have people taking bribes from special interests while consolidating their own personal power for 30 plus years. Got it. Hallmark of a true democracy right there.
    You Talk tough! You act like a fag.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
    Oh ok, so you would rather have people taking bribes from special interests while consolidating their own personal power for 30 plus years. Got it. Hallmark of a true democracy right there.
    I don't want that either. We have elections and they have consequences.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
    Oh ok, so you would rather have people taking bribes from special interests while consolidating their own personal power for 30 plus years. Got it.
    I agree with term limits but paying them 50k instead of 200k isn't going to make a difference. Campaign funding is a way bigger issue than their relatively minuscule salary.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2017

    RedRocket said:

    Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.

    This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.
    Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.
    I don't want dumb poor people running the country.
    Oh ok, so you would rather have people taking bribes from special interests while consolidating their own personal power for 30 plus years. Got it. Hallmark of a true democracy right there.
    I don't want that either. We have elections and they have consequences.
    Right, elections where we get to choose between two corrupt, bankrupt parties that, when its boiled down to basics, are basically the same party -- the Washington establishment. It can be shaken up and broken with term limits.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:
    Nice Red-herring from a paid shill as always.

    Your handlers don't want any acknowledgement of the Clinton Crime Foundation.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    Mosster47 said:

    Trump's act is already tiresome. He hasn't done anything other than becoming super fucking annoying to everyone on both sides.

    He was here a few weeks back holding a rally for Luther Strange. Then Luther got smashed the next day in the vote. If Bama doesn't care what Donnie says anymore then you could imagine what every swing state is like.

    Fucking great news. Both sides are the problem.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Trump may be the last chance to tear down a corrupt system before it gets too far along to be capable of fixing.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    edited October 2017
    2001400ex said:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're trying to be sarcastic or ironic, but this is basically true. You won't see the faggots in the mainstream media reporting this at all. Why? Because they're mother fucking traitors that should be shot like traitors for their part in eroding American democracy. The fact that we continue to put up with this shit, the Clintons selling uranium to the Russians, the FBI and justice department covering it up, etc., shows that we are a failed state in the making.

    What I'm implying that you are missing.... Trump is the news. He has access to everything he wants. He can instruct the AG to investigate this. Republicans, who owns both houses of Congress, can investigate this. They spent how many years investigating Benghazi and emails? You'd think, if there were truth to what Fox news is reporting and Trump is parroting, that the Republican controlled AG or Congress would be all over it like stink on shit.

    But you are too dumb and too partisan to look past the fact that your news source drills it and at Trump parrots it, so it must be true.

    Nice rants tho, rather entertaining.
    In the history of irony, this is a pinnacle moment ...
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    End of the day, there is no easy solution. OBK is right that the long-time career politicians end up bought off by the corporate establishment that only has one set of interests in mind.

    RedRocket and Boobs are right that you don't want to dis-incentivize the position and keep good people out. Even at $200k per year, the really good people make far more in the private sector. Why would any rational actor take a pay-cut and have to endure the bullshit? Character ethos just aren't the main thing anymore.

    RIP Pat Tillman.


    The contrarian solution I've been mulling over is to the switch the term-limits between congress and executive. I would institute a 2-term max on members of the House and a 1-term max on Senators; then I would lift term-limits all together on the executive.

    The idea is to keep Congress more representative of the people than the corporate establishment - with a revolving door. This would insure less impact by the corporate establishment interests by removing the inherent problems of the current bargain = trading power and privilege.

    I would lift term-limits on the executive, because in a time of crisis, you need a strong, resolute leader to lead and continue to govern. Losing FDR after a second term would have been a disaster, imo. Nothing has ever been gained by cutting off your nose to spite your face.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    End of the day, there is no easy solution. OBK is right that the long-time career politicians end up bought off by the corporate establishment that only has one set of interests in mind.

    RedRocket and Boobs are right that you don't want to dis-incentivize the position and keep good people out. Even at $200k per year, the really good people make far more in the private sector. Why would any rational actor take a pay-cut and have to endure the bullshit? Character ethos just aren't the main thing anymore.

    RIP Pat Tillman.


    The contrarian solution I've been mulling over is to the switch the term-limits between congress and executive. I would institute a 2-term max on members of the House and a 1-term max on Senators; then I would lift term-limits all together on the executive.

    The idea is to keep Congress more representative of the people than the corporate establishment - with a revolving door. This would insure less impact by the corporate establishment interests by removing the inherent problems of the current bargain = trading power and privilege.

    I would lift term-limits on the executive, because in a time of crisis, you need a strong, resolute leader to lead and continue to govern. Losing FDR after a second term would have been a disaster, imo. Nothing has ever been gained by cutting off your nose to spite your face.


    Term limits won't help anything when there's people who get paid to bribe people for a living (lobbyists). Right now there is too much money coming in on each side. Look at the last health care vote, the 49-51 where McCain was the deciding vote. 49 Republicans had too much money coming in telling them to repeal Obamacare no matter what. 48 Democrats had too much money telling them to keep Obamacare no matter what. McCain is old and was the sacrificial lamb. So basically 3 people voted in what's in the best interest of the nation, which is to not pass that shitty repeal. (Before you grill me, we need to fix Obamacare, but cutting taxes on the wealthy and cutting subsidies on the poor is not the right way to do it).

    I can agree on term limits, like 5 terms for the house and 2 terms for the Senate. But citizens United needs to be gone and lobbying needs to end.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Who are these 'really good people' everyone keeps talking about? Presumably they already occupy these positions, and yet the country is so fucked up right now, it's like retards are running the show. How many skills do you need to go to Washington and represent your district? Because the only ones currently required are graft, extortion and know how to be a good liar.

    The executive branch needs limits. Do you want Caesar Obama ruling for 20 years?