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Agree Obama for 20 yes area would be awful. Do you want Trump ruling for 20 years?oregonblitzkrieg said:Who are these 'really good people' everyone keeps talking about? Presumably they already occupy these positions, and yet the country is so fucked up right now, it's like retards are running the show. How many skills do you need to go to Washington and represent your district? Because the only ones currently required are graft, extortion and know how to be a good liar.
The executive branch needs limits. Do you want Caesar Obama ruling for 20 years? -
Yes because then you'd finally have the nervous breakdown we've been waiting for2001400ex said:
Agree Obama for 20 yes area would be awful. Do you want Trump ruling for 20 years?oregonblitzkrieg said:Who are these 'really good people' everyone keeps talking about? Presumably they already occupy these positions, and yet the country is so fucked up right now, it's like retards are running the show. How many skills do you need to go to Washington and represent your district? Because the only ones currently required are graft, extortion and know how to be a good liar.
The executive branch needs limits. Do you want Caesar Obama ruling for 20 years? -
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right? -
That hurts. I thought I had your vote.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I don't want dumb poor people running the country.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Political talent? If you have political talent we don't fucking want you. Hit the road. That's exactly the problem. Career politicians. There are plenty of people who would serve the country for 4 years and walk away.RedRocket said:
This better be a joke. Nobody with any measurable amount of talent would apply for that shitty job unless they could use it to line their pockets.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
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2001400ex said:
Term limits won't help anything when there's people who get paid to bribe people for a living (lobbyists). Right now there is too much money coming in on each side. Look at the last health care vote, the 49-51 where McCain was the deciding vote. 49 Republicans had too much money coming in telling them to repeal Obamacare no matter what. 48 Democrats had too much money telling them to keep Obamacare no matter what. McCain is old and was the sacrificial lamb. So basically 3 people voted in what's in the best interest of the nation, which is to not pass that shitty repeal. (Before you grill me, we need to fix Obamacare, but cutting taxes on the wealthy and cutting subsidies on the poor is not the right way to do it).pawz said:End of the day, there is no easy solution. OBK is right that the long-time career politicians end up bought off by the corporate establishment that only has one set of interests in mind.
RedRocket and Boobs are right that you don't want to dis-incentivize the position and keep good people out. Even at $200k per year, the really good people make far more in the private sector. Why would any rational actor take a pay-cut and have to endure the bullshit? Character ethos just aren't the main thing anymore.
RIP Pat Tillman.
The contrarian solution I've been mulling over is to the switch the term-limits between congress and executive. I would institute a 2-term max on members of the House and a 1-term max on Senators; then I would lift term-limits all together on the executive.
The idea is to keep Congress more representative of the people than the corporate establishment - with a revolving door. This would insure less impact by the corporate establishment interests by removing the inherent problems of the current bargain = trading power and privilege.
I would lift term-limits on the executive, because in a time of crisis, you need a strong, resolute leader to lead and continue to govern. Losing FDR after a second term would have been a disaster, imo. Nothing has ever been gained by cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I can agree on term limits, like 5 terms for the house and 2 terms for the Senate. But citizens United needs to be gone and lobbying needs to end.
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Exhibit A - likely deciding against running for President because bullshit:oregonblitzkrieg said:Who are these 'really good people' everyone keeps talking about? Presumably they already occupy these positions, and yet the country is so fucked up right now, it's like retards are running the show. How many skills do you need to go to Washington and represent your district? Because the only ones currently required are graft, extortion and know how to be a good liar.
The whole point of term-limits for Congress is to dis-incentivize making decisions for people who help get them re-elected and to make decisions for the people they are supposed to serve.
I want FDR to begin his 4th term.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The executive branch needs limits. Do you want Caesar Obama ruling for 20 years?
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What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right? -
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option. -
I'm just shocked that Sven hates Trump. I thought for a while they may be the same person.
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Retards are running the show, you fucking dope.oregonblitzkrieg said:Who are these 'really good people' everyone keeps talking about? Presumably they already occupy these positions, and yet the country is so fucked up right now, it's like retards are running the show. How many skills do you need to go to Washington and represent your district? Because the only ones currently required are graft, extortion and know how to be a good liar.
The executive branch needs limits. Do you want Caesar Obama ruling for 20 years?
They're called the voters. -
Bunks were an obvious whoosh fuckface, enough though I guess to fool basic retards like Boobs, as well as used guitar selling, trailer park gumps from Alabama like yourself. The salary could be higher as long as there are term limits, but the point is, make them play by the same general rules as the rest of the country. No exemptions from health care laws they force on America, for example. The current system is not working. The salaries and perks are not attracting these mythical 'good people' so your argument is weak. Instead we have serial criminals, swindlers, liars, extortionists, career politicians leading the country.Mosster47 said:
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option.
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Da Fuq?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Bunks were an obvious whoosh fuckface, enough though I guess to fool basic retards like Boobs, as well as used guitar selling, trailer park gumps from Alabama like yourself. The salary could be higher as long as there are term limits, but the point is, make them play by the same general rules as the rest of the country. No exemptions from health care laws they force on America, for example. The current system is not working. The salaries and perks are not attracting these mythical 'good people' so your argument is weak. Instead we have serial criminals, swindlers, liars, extortionists, career politicians leading the country.Mosster47 said:
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/25/heres-how-much-members-of-congress-pay-for-their-health-insurance.html -
You're literally like talking to a horse.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Bunks were an obvious whoosh fuckface, enough though I guess to fool basic retards like Boobs, as well as used guitar selling, trailer park gumps from Alabama like yourself. The salary could be higher as long as there are term limits, but the point is, make them play by the same general rules as the rest of the country. No exemptions from health care laws they force on America, for example. The current system is not working. The salaries and perks are not attracting these mythical 'good people' so your argument is weak. Instead we have serial criminals, swindlers, liars, extortionists, career politicians leading the country.Mosster47 said:
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option.
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Agree.Mosster47 said:
You're literallyoregonblitzkrieg said:
Bunks were an obvious whoosh fuckface, enough though I guess to fool basic retards like Boobs, as well as used guitar selling, trailer park gumps from Alabama like yourself. The salary could be higher as long as there are term limits, but the point is, make them play by the same general rules as the rest of the country. No exemptions from health care laws they force on America, for example. The current system is not working. The salaries and perks are not attracting these mythical 'good people' so your argument is weak. Instead we have serial criminals, swindlers, liars, extortionists, career politicians leading the country.Mosster47 said:
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option.liketalking to a horse. -
Horse?Mosster47 said:
You're literally like talking to a horse.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Bunks were an obvious whoosh fuckface, enough though I guess to fool basic retards like Boobs, as well as used guitar selling, trailer park gumps from Alabama like yourself. The salary could be higher as long as there are term limits, but the point is, make them play by the same general rules as the rest of the country. No exemptions from health care laws they force on America, for example. The current system is not working. The salaries and perks are not attracting these mythical 'good people' so your argument is weak. Instead we have serial criminals, swindlers, liars, extortionists, career politicians leading the country.Mosster47 said:
That's the same deal as prison. Obviously you are poor. There is nothing wrong with being poor, but in your mind you think $50k a year and basic life sustainment is going to get respectable people to run for government office. This is false. It would get poor people, like you. Again, nothing wrong with being poor, but they obviously didn't "get" capitalism, which is what we are.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What about free bunks in a boarding house and 3 meals a day don't you fucking understand?Mosster47 said:
Hi, you do understand no person over 25 would accept this right? DC fucking sucks and as an example that would be a 50% pay cut for me, and I work for the federal government.oregonblitzkrieg said:Term limits, no more than 4 years in Washington, a salary of no more than 50K per year and a complimentary bunk in a boarding house. 3 meals a day. 40 hour work weeks, 1 1/2 weeks of vacation per year, max. Lifetime ban on any relatives, acquaintances, business associates of senators/congressmen from serving. Ban all lobbying.
$50k to live somewhere crazy expensive that isn't even a 1095 term. You realize you're the stupidest fucker you know, right?
Poor is ok. Poor and stupid is not ok. You're the second option.
Donkey.
A dumb fucking donkey.
