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Too many holes on this team now

HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,390
I have been giving myself a mental flogging for thinking that Sosebee was "fine" at LG. He's not fine.
I didn't think I'd miss Eldrenkamp quite as much as I do. I started to then ponder the holes this team has:

-WR: lack of explosive playmakers: it was bad enough losing Ross to the NFL but Chico's broken ankle took away his most logical replacement. Ahmed has shown flashes as multi-purpose weapon but is a true frosh

-LT: Kirkland wasn't awful and there's a chance that Adams only hyperextended his knee. Until otherwise though, it's a hole.

-LG: hole

-K: hole. If you have two kickers, you really have none

-CB: Miller is out for the season, Murphy is still banged up...thankful for Bryant and Joyner but someone like Kentrell Love will need to step-up (partial hole).

No way they beat Stanford on the road and a 9-3 regular season is looking about right.

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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,390
    Hope you're right. A bye week will help.
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,643
    If what I heard is true Trey is done. Still hasn't had a MRI yet.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I tend to judge knee injury reactions on player reactions ... they tend to know the difference between hyperextending, sprains, and something that tore completely.

    I hope I'm wrong by based on what I saw on the face of Trey, I'm not optimistic.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    UW handles stanford.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Murphy will be back. Myles Bryant is good but limited. Kirkland is fine too, both this year and last. Hitting the panic button and taking redshirts off a bunch of true frosh is FS and *never* works out. (The true frosh who can contribute right away are rare and reveal themselves earlier than mid-October.)

    Browning is the QB, but he can be used much smarter.

    The positions that must be addressed (with the upperclassmen onhand) are PK and LG.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Molden will start at CB before love or dotson do.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Close, missed just a few, Ill outline below:

    QB: Brownsocks (and every QB we will ever have after him) is mediocre with an OK offensive game plan and coaching but we have Smith so he fucking sucks, We could have deshaun Watson and the QB position would look like shit because our scheme, game planning, and development

    RB: Gaskin thinks dancing around like le'veon bell is smart, but it only works if you atleast pretend to play physically. Coleman has regressed and looks to be marketing his cement shoes to the LBs now

    OL: Dont worry, i heard next year we have a bumper (buffer?) crop of OL recruits we can miss on, LOL about developing whoever the fuck we have already on the roster

    WR: Fuck all of them, pettis is fine but the rest could be replaced by Sigma Nu and no one would be able to tell

    LB: Bearia and Azeem both look significantly worse. the fact that BBK is just as good as these fuckers that have been so bad ass is a MAJOR issue. They look slow as shit.

    CB: They play well enough but we have a ton of injuries and most of the guys left are midgets, luckily we actually recruit and coach this one position

    S: Hardest hitting mother fuckers in a long time but super retarded in coverage, I dont understand why atleast one of them (Rapp, Micintosh, or Turner) havent been moved to LB.

    K: send them to russia or north korea and have them walk home

    The only position play that has been consistently good is DL and TE.

    as an aside: Gains and Vea should both be playing 7-10 pounds lighter IMO
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Houhusky said:

    Close, missed just a few, Ill outline below:

    QB: Brownsocks (and every QB we will ever have after him) is mediocre with an OK offensive game plan and coaching but we have Smith so he fucking sucks, We could have deshaun Watson and the QB position would look like shit because our scheme, game planning, and development

    RB: Gaskin thinks dancing around like le'veon bell is smart, but it only works if you atleast pretend to play physically. Coleman has regressed and looks to be marketing his cement shoes to the LBs now

    OL: Dont worry, i heard next year we have a bumper (buffer?) crop of OL recruits we can miss on, LOL about developing whoever the fuck we have already on the roster

    WR: Fuck all of them, pettis is fine but the rest could be replaced by Sigma Nu and no one would be able to tell

    LB: Bearia and Azeem both look significantly worse. the fact that BBK is just as good as these fuckers that have been so bad ass is a MAJOR issue. They look slow as shit.

    CB: They play well enough but we have a ton of injuries and most of the guys left are midgets, luckily we actually recruit and coach this one position

    S: Hardest hitting mother fuckers in a long time but super retarded in coverage, I dont understand why atleast one of them (Rapp, Micintosh, or Turner) havent been moved to LB.

    K: send them to russia or north korea and have them walk home

    The only position play that has been consistently good is DL and TE.

    as an aside: Gains and Vea should both be playing 7-10 pounds lighter IMO

    lol, if we had sdeshaun watson I guarantee we score 14 points. the offensive line was not great but the pass blocking was good enough and a QB with any running threat at all goes for at least 100 given how ASU was defending the QB run.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HFNY said:

    I have been giving myself a mental flogging for thinking that Sosebee was "fine" at LG. He's not fine.
    I didn't think I'd miss Eldrenkamp quite as much as I do. I started to then ponder the holes this team has:

    -WR: lack of explosive playmakers: it was bad enough losing Ross to the NFL but Chico's broken ankle took away his most logical replacement. Ahmed has shown flashes as multi-purpose weapon but is a true frosh

    -LT: Kirkland wasn't awful and there's a chance that Adams only hyperextended his knee. Until otherwise though, it's a hole.

    -LG: hole

    -K: hole. If you have two kickers, you really have none

    -CB: Miller is out for the season, Murphy is still banged up...thankful for Bryant and Joyner but someone like Kentrell Love will need to step-up (partial hole).

    No way they beat Stanford on the road and a 9-3 regular season is looking about right.

    I never bash the players without also bashing the coaches.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    Swaye said:

    You made a huge list and left off the most gaping hole of them all, Brownsocks. I can't take any list seriously that doesn't have him listed number 1. Christ.

    You added to the list and failed by not mentioning Smith.....

    Shame on you.

  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    BallzDeep said:

    TTJ said:

    Murphy will be back. Myles Bryant is good but limited. Kirkland is fine too, both this year and last. Hitting the panic button and taking redshirts off a bunch of true frosh is FS and *never* works out. (The true frosh who can contribute right away are rare and reveal themselves earlier than mid-October.)

    Browning is the QB, but he can be used much smarter.

    The positions that must be addressed (with the upperclassmen onhand) are PK and LG.

    Kirkland is fine!? Kirkland is fine!? Lord have mercy. He's SOFT and STIFF and SLOW. He wasn't even good enough to earn the starting job at Guard and you think it's a good idea for him to be the starting LT the rest of the season? Bainivalu was running with the twos at LT all of fall camp. He's way better than Kirkland. If Kirkland is the starting LT Browning won't make it through the season. I would play Jaxson Kirkland at LT before Andrew Kirkland. If not Bainivalu then Hilbers or Roberts need to stop being pussies and step the fuck up.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    Tequilla said:

    I tend to judge knee injury reactions on player reactions ... they tend to know the difference between hyperextending, sprains, and something that tore completely.

    I hope I'm wrong by based on what I saw on the face of Trey, I'm not optimistic.

    When they go down without contact, it's never good. He tore something.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to judge knee injury reactions on player reactions ... they tend to know the difference between hyperextending, sprains, and something that tore completely.

    I hope I'm wrong by based on what I saw on the face of Trey, I'm not optimistic.

    When they go down without contact, it's never good. He tore something.
    He posted a picture on his Instagram story of his leg in a brace, elevated with crutches in the background. It said “Day 1” ...
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Houhusky said:

    dhdawg said:

    Houhusky said:

    Close, missed just a few, Ill outline below:

    QB: Brownsocks (and every QB we will ever have after him) is mediocre with an OK offensive game plan and coaching but we have Smith so he fucking sucks, We could have deshaun Watson and the QB position would look like shit because our scheme, game planning, and development

    RB: Gaskin thinks dancing around like le'veon bell is smart, but it only works if you atleast pretend to play physically. Coleman has regressed and looks to be marketing his cement shoes to the LBs now

    OL: Dont worry, i heard next year we have a bumper (buffer?) crop of OL recruits we can miss on, LOL about developing whoever the fuck we have already on the roster

    WR: Fuck all of them, pettis is fine but the rest could be replaced by Sigma Nu and no one would be able to tell

    LB: Bearia and Azeem both look significantly worse. the fact that BBK is just as good as these fuckers that have been so bad ass is a MAJOR issue. They look slow as shit.

    CB: They play well enough but we have a ton of injuries and most of the guys left are midgets, luckily we actually recruit and coach this one position

    S: Hardest hitting mother fuckers in a long time but super retarded in coverage, I dont understand why atleast one of them (Rapp, Micintosh, or Turner) havent been moved to LB.

    K: send them to russia or north korea and have them walk home

    The only position play that has been consistently good is DL and TE.

    as an aside: Gains and Vea should both be playing 7-10 pounds lighter IMO

    lol, if we had sdeshaun watson I guarantee we score 14 points. the offensive line was not great but the pass blocking was good enough and a QB with any running threat at all goes for at least 100 given how ASU was defending the QB run.
    Cool... and the offense and the QB would still look like shit because ASU had already given up over 30 fucking points for 11 games in a row so scoring 14 is still shit tier quality

    Of course Watson running the offense would result in more points than browning... The point was that the shit coaching, recruiting, and game plan places a cap on how "good" the offense will ever be irregaurdless of the quality of QB play.
    we'd look a lot less shitty. a lot less
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    dhdawg said:

    Houhusky said:

    dhdawg said:

    Houhusky said:

    Close, missed just a few, Ill outline below:

    QB: Brownsocks (and every QB we will ever have after him) is mediocre with an OK offensive game plan and coaching but we have Smith so he fucking sucks, We could have deshaun Watson and the QB position would look like shit because our scheme, game planning, and development

    RB: Gaskin thinks dancing around like le'veon bell is smart, but it only works if you atleast pretend to play physically. Coleman has regressed and looks to be marketing his cement shoes to the LBs now

    OL: Dont worry, i heard next year we have a bumper (buffer?) crop of OL recruits we can miss on, LOL about developing whoever the fuck we have already on the roster

    WR: Fuck all of them, pettis is fine but the rest could be replaced by Sigma Nu and no one would be able to tell

    LB: Bearia and Azeem both look significantly worse. the fact that BBK is just as good as these fuckers that have been so bad ass is a MAJOR issue. They look slow as shit.

    CB: They play well enough but we have a ton of injuries and most of the guys left are midgets, luckily we actually recruit and coach this one position

    S: Hardest hitting mother fuckers in a long time but super retarded in coverage, I dont understand why atleast one of them (Rapp, Micintosh, or Turner) havent been moved to LB.

    K: send them to russia or north korea and have them walk home

    The only position play that has been consistently good is DL and TE.

    as an aside: Gains and Vea should both be playing 7-10 pounds lighter IMO

    lol, if we had sdeshaun watson I guarantee we score 14 points. the offensive line was not great but the pass blocking was good enough and a QB with any running threat at all goes for at least 100 given how ASU was defending the QB run.
    Cool... and the offense and the QB would still look like shit because ASU had already given up over 30 fucking points for 11 games in a row so scoring 14 is still shit tier quality

    Of course Watson running the offense would result in more points than browning... The point was that the shit coaching, recruiting, and game plan places a cap on how "good" the offense will ever be irregaurdless of the quality of QB play.
    we'd look a lot less shitty. a lot less
    And Cam Newton is the difference between 14-0 and 8-5. Sometimes some of the greatest of all time can cover up deficiencies. For everyone else there is good coaching.
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to judge knee injury reactions on player reactions ... they tend to know the difference between hyperextending, sprains, and something that tore completely.

    I hope I'm wrong by based on what I saw on the face of Trey, I'm not optimistic.

    When they go down without contact, it's never good. He tore something.
    I tore my ACL and my meniscus in two places several years back. Of course I couldn't see it as it happened, but what happened to Trey certainly reminded me of my injury.

    I think he tore his ACL, at a minimum. Fucking sucks for him and for UW.