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2001400ex
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“This move will singlehandedly both increase the federal deficit by $200 billion and spike premiums by more than 20 percent in New Jersey next year.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/13/trumps-move-lead-higher-premiums-middle-class-consumers-hes-vowed-protect/760917001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/13/trumps-move-lead-higher-premiums-middle-class-consumers-hes-vowed-protect/760917001/
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You're still here?
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Goodpawz said:You're still here?
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You good @allpurpleallgold?2001400ex said:
Goodpawz said:You're still here?
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Yeah, I'm good. You good?TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
Yeah, I'm good. @RaceBannon, you good?allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, I'm good. You good?TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
What a cool day man when rising deficits and rising premiums are a good thing.
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It's all good with me man
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Deficits are overrated.2001400ex said:What a cool day man when rising deficits and rising premiums are a good thing.
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Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
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If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
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You still haven't posted the bills or actions where Obama added $10 trillion to the deficit.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
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Effected pretty much everyone. Guess you missed all the premium hikes? They don't report that on Huffpo and Daliy KOS?Mosster47 said:
If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
Way to blame less than 10% of the population for something that didn't even effect the 90%. -
Didn't think so.Sledog said: -
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The premium hikes were going to happen regardless. Hondo and others have posted countless links to that. Doctors were getting paid like rockstars prior to Obamacare.Sledog said:
Effected pretty much everyone. Guess you missed all the premium hikes? They don't report that on Huffpo and Daliy KOS?Mosster47 said:
If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
Way to blame less than 10% of the population for something that didn't even effect the 90%.
Employee provided insurance wasn't effected by it at all then and it's still not now. Again, less than 10% of the population fell under the ACA. That's not going to really do much to the other 90%+.
It's like that stupid ass poll of over 50% of Americans hate, legitimately hate Obamacare, but 40% aren't effected by it all. Stupid for the sake of stupid and you can't fix that. -
So, this was all just a simple ploy to cut Physician pay?
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I like the polls where 50% hate Obamacare but only 10% hate the affordable Care act.Mosster47 said:
The premium hikes were going to happen regardless. Hondo and others have posted countless links to that. Doctors were getting paid like rockstars prior to Obamacare.Sledog said:
Effected pretty much everyone. Guess you missed all the premium hikes? They don't report that on Huffpo and Daliy KOS?Mosster47 said:
If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
Way to blame less than 10% of the population for something that didn't even effect the 90%.
Employee provided insurance wasn't effected by it at all then and it's still not now. Again, less than 10% of the population fell under the ACA. That's not going to really do much to the other 90%+.
It's like that stupid ass poll of over 50% of Americans hate, legitimately hate Obamacare, but 40% aren't effected by it all. Stupid for the sake of stupid and you can't fix that. -
Agreed.doogie said:
But if you zoom in a little closer, say, from January 2008 to January 2010, you see something interesting: the fuse was lit before Obama took office. (Note that this graph is only the "held by the public" part of the debt.)
That's because the increase in debt in the early years of the Obama administration was a largely a response to the imploding economy -- just as the big bulge at the end of the George W. Bush administration (2008) was.
Debt increases are a function of the government not being able to pay its bills. Too little revenue (taxes) compared to costs (spending), and you have a deficit. Since 2002, this is what quarterly deficits (or, rarely, surpluses) have looked like.
The administration likes to brag about its effort to reduce the deficit -- which is fair. After all, you can see in the graph above that deficits have decreased. But the White House uses another metric: the deficit as a function of total economic production, or Gross Domestic Product (GDP). The drop is more noticeable in that comparison (especially when you look at it annually, as we do below). -
It's always special when an excuse making shill ignores common knowledge.2001400ex said:
You still haven't posted the bills or actions where Obama added $10 trillion to the deficit.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
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Just because it's knowledge common to the Breitbart crowd, doesn't make it factually correct.pawz said:
It's always special when an excuse making shill ignores common knowledge.2001400ex said:
You still haven't posted the bills or actions where Obama added $10 trillion to the deficit.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
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Everyone hates anything with the word "Obama" in it. Planned premium increases after he was out of office.....2001400ex said:
I like the polls where 50% hate Obamacare but only 10% hate the affordable Care act.Mosster47 said:
The premium hikes were going to happen regardless. Hondo and others have posted countless links to that. Doctors were getting paid like rockstars prior to Obamacare.Sledog said:
Effected pretty much everyone. Guess you missed all the premium hikes? They don't report that on Huffpo and Daliy KOS?Mosster47 said:
If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
Way to blame less than 10% of the population for something that didn't even effect the 90%.
Employee provided insurance wasn't effected by it at all then and it's still not now. Again, less than 10% of the population fell under the ACA. That's not going to really do much to the other 90%+.
It's like that stupid ass poll of over 50% of Americans hate, legitimately hate Obamacare, but 40% aren't effected by it all. Stupid for the sake of stupid and you can't fix that.
http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-new-obamacare-tax-raise-premiums-cost-270-billion/ -
Not everyone. Just the Breitbart and Dennis Michael Lynch crowd.Sledog said:
Everyone hates anything with the word "Obama" in it. Planned premium increases after he was out of office.....2001400ex said:
I like the polls where 50% hate Obamacare but only 10% hate the affordable Care act.Mosster47 said:
The premium hikes were going to happen regardless. Hondo and others have posted countless links to that. Doctors were getting paid like rockstars prior to Obamacare.Sledog said:
Effected pretty much everyone. Guess you missed all the premium hikes? They don't report that on Huffpo and Daliy KOS?Mosster47 said:
If you think Bronco destroyed Healthcare you're fucking Sledoog. Oh wait, that is you.Sledog said:Where was Hondo when his hero ran up 10 trillion, destroyed healthcare in America and increased premiums?
Way to blame less than 10% of the population for something that didn't even effect the 90%.
Employee provided insurance wasn't effected by it at all then and it's still not now. Again, less than 10% of the population fell under the ACA. That's not going to really do much to the other 90%+.
It's like that stupid ass poll of over 50% of Americans hate, legitimately hate Obamacare, but 40% aren't effected by it all. Stupid for the sake of stupid and you can't fix that.
http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-new-obamacare-tax-raise-premiums-cost-270-billion/ -
Fuck you and your Communist Party group division politics.
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You can't complain about divisive politics when Trump is your chosen leader.doogie said:Fuck you and your Communist Party group division politics.
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I endorse any and all tactics utilized by Trump, so far and in the future, to do whatever is necessary to defeat the enemy of the United States and all of your supporters.
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I just peed a little.doogie said:I endorse any and all tactics utilized by Trump, so far and in the future, to do whatever is necessary to defeat the enemy of the United States and all of your supporters.
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Depends were invented for people like you in situations like this.
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It's clear you don't get it. Maybe you should PM @IrishDawg22doogie said:Depends were invented for people like you in situations like this.
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I don't do surrender. No matter how hard you Communists try, we will win, in the end.
