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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    topdawgnc said:

    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    Graham may be a great coach but he's never built anything and ASU is a very senior-laden team. They could lose 8 starters on defense and 5 on offense including Grice. If he has a great year next year then he's a great coach. I think they'll fall back quite a bit.

    ASU is likely the biggest sleeping giant in the PAC.

    It doesn't take a lot to build a team when you have the environment ASU provides.

    Just like Washington can make a below average coach .500
    People have been saying that about ASU forever. Talent in Arizona is improving and if ASU could dominate in-state recruiting, they would be a top 15 program. However, historically the best players all leave the state and thats the problem. Because of that they rely on JC's and thats why ASU has been very inconsistent year to year. If Graham has a good year next year he'll get better offers.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,387
    edited November 2013
    I don't think he is leaving ASU. Maybe for a big Texas school like AtM or Texas but his wife seems like the one that encouraged the last coaching move as she is from ASU. Or so the message boards have said.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842
    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    topdawgnc said:

    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    Graham may be a great coach but he's never built anything and ASU is a very senior-laden team. They could lose 8 starters on defense and 5 on offense including Grice. If he has a great year next year then he's a great coach. I think they'll fall back quite a bit.

    ASU is likely the biggest sleeping giant in the PAC.

    It doesn't take a lot to build a team when you have the environment ASU provides.

    Just like Washington can make a below average coach .500
    People have been saying that about ASU forever. Talent in Arizona is improving and if ASU could dominate in-state recruiting, they would be a top 15 program. However, historically the best players all leave the state and thats the problem. Because of that they rely on JC's and thats why ASU has been very inconsistent year to year. If Graham has a good year next year he'll get better offers.
    I will grant you ASU is a feeder school for bigger gigs.

    With ASU's AD going to Texas ... and Mack Brown being on the ropes ...

    I just praise Allah Don James never had to face a resurgent ASU.
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,952 Founders Club
    Blayen said:

    Did you include the $4 million bucks Sven's $20 with your email? That might have done it.

    This is brutal. I wanted Graham back then. Instead we got stuck with a pancake in a visor

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  • beelzebub
    beelzebub Member Posts: 361
    Graham is and will always be a scumbag, he's taking kstates route to success which means they will be good everytime halley's comet comes around
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,387
    I think most good coaches are scum bags. He has never been anywhere long enough to see if he can be elite. But he improves the schools where he goes.
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  • DeLarry
    DeLarry Member Posts: 230
    Caring about whether or not your coach is a scumbag is what got us Ty.

    I could give a fuck if he's a scumbag. Be a scumbag in Pasadena on January 1, and it's fine by me.
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