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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,681 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    Who lives in the inner city anyway?
    White people. Inner cities are becoming less and less black all the time. Haven't you read the news and seen the protests?

    Where the hell have you been, Boobs?
    Its the endless cycle of real estate. Trash the inner cities, buy them cheap and you have close to town multi million dollar real estate again

    Lather rinse repeat
    Some like to call that "Gentrification".
    In Cali many have moved out toward the desert. Selling their inner city homes at a good price and buying cheaper places in Palmdale, Lancaster, Moreno Valley etc. Some just moved there for cheaper rent. Of course problems moved with them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.

    I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws.

    And yet it was only in South Central that drug arrests looked like this

    image
    Not normally used for drug warrants unless it's a known gang location. Of course you expect to come home from work alive right?
    The LAPD was out of control in the 80's and 90's

    That's not a myth its a fact.

    50's 60's and 70's too.

    Generations were raised getting beat up or having their homes invaded. That will change your perception
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,681 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.

    I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws.

    And yet it was only in South Central that drug arrests looked like this

    image
    Not normally used for drug warrants unless it's a known gang location. Of course you expect to come home from work alive right?
    The LAPD was out of control in the 80's and 90's

    That's not a myth its a fact.

    50's 60's and 70's too.

    Generations were raised getting beat up or having their homes invaded. That will change your perception
    Not saying bad things haven't happened. They don't use of armored cars for most warrant service these days.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.

    I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws.

    And yet it was only in South Central that drug arrests looked like this

    image
    Not normally used for drug warrants unless it's a known gang location. Of course you expect to come home from work alive right?
    The LAPD was out of control in the 80's and 90's

    That's not a myth its a fact.


    50's 60's and 70's too.

    Generations were raised getting beat up or having their homes invaded. That will change your perception
    So was crime. I'm no proponent of the Darryl Gates policing methods. But nor do I support the passive-hippie Norm Stamper school of policing. The biggest problem I see with policing of cities, to this day, is that most cops don't live anywhere near where they work. Seattle is full of cowboy cops from Duvall and Maple Valley, for example. Those who say they can't relate have a valid point.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter


    Who lives in the inner city anyway?

    White people. Inner cities are becoming less and less black all the time. Haven't you read the news and seen the protests?

    Where the hell have you been, Boobs?
    Its the endless cycle of real estate. Trash the inner cities, buy them cheap and you have close to town multi million dollar real estate again

    Lather rinse repeat
    Some like to call that "Gentrification".

    One man's Gentrification is another man's Displacement.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025


    Who lives in the inner city anyway?

    White people. Inner cities are becoming less and less black all the time. Haven't you read the news and seen the protests?

    Where the hell have you been, Boobs?
    Its the endless cycle of real estate. Trash the inner cities, buy them cheap and you have close to town multi million dollar real estate again

    Lather rinse repeat
    Some like to call that "Gentrification".
    One man's Gentrification is another man's Displacement.

    Winners win.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.

    I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws.

    And yet it was only in South Central that drug arrests looked like this

    image
    Not normally used for drug warrants unless it's a known gang location. Of course you expect to come home from work alive right?
    The LAPD was out of control in the 80's and 90's

    That's not a myth its a fact.

    50's 60's and 70's too.

    Generations were raised getting beat up or having their homes invaded. That will change your perception
    Not saying bad things haven't happened. They don't use of armored cars for most warrant service these days.
    a few bad apples

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    Who lives in the inner city anyway?
    White people. Inner cities are becoming less and less black all the time. Haven't you read the news and seen the protests?

    Where the hell have you been, Boobs?
    Its the endless cycle of real estate. Trash the inner cities, buy them cheap and you have close to town multi million dollar real estate again

    Lather rinse repeat
    Some like to call that "Gentrification".
    In Cali many have moved out toward the desert. Selling their inner city homes at a good price and buying cheaper places in Palmdale, Lancaster, Moreno Valley etc. Some just moved there for cheaper rent. Of course problems moved with them.
    That's not gentrification. The term "gentrification" is generally used to describe the process of urban renewal following a period of urban decay. The term has become a dog whistle of sorts for the left due to the inevitable displacement of some during the renewal phase.

    Regarding the high desert/Antelope valley region, a few decades ago, Palmdale-Lancaster was mostly a unique mix of shit kickers, retirees, and blue collar types working for Lockheed, Northrop and Rockwell. The problems you're describing in the high desert have (or had) a lot to do with gangs from LA expanding in that direction.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    So should we jail hillbillies for using those?
    Kreist,

    No we should give them a break if their white.

    Is your meltdown in the neighborhood of later guys yet?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    AZDuck said:

    can I infer that the cooger is also addicted to crack? since apparently he's done it once and all

    Crack is one helluva drug.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    Learn how to use a comma.
    Learn how to not come out of a coma.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited September 2017

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    So should we jail hillbillies for using those?
    Again, it's not the drug, it's the attendant criminality that surrounds the drug trade and impacts wider society that escalated to a very dangerous point in the late 80's to mid-90's where they enhanced penalties and sentences to take the worst, most violent people off the street and punish the fuck out of the biggest dealers, which I had no problem at all with and still don't.

    I lived on the edge of the Hilltop in the early 90's and a lot of people were getting shot, robbed, beaten and assaulted by gangs every week. Fuck that shit. I was happy whey they locked a bunch of those fucks up and threw away the key. And I'd do it again with heroin dealers if they start spraying automatics around neighborhoods, parks and schools.
    And for the Frannie,

    But these guys didn't have other opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    So should we jail hillbillies for using those?
    Again, it's not the drug, it's the attendant criminality that surrounds the drug trade and impacts wider society that escalated to a very dangerous point in the late 80's to mid-90's where they enhanced penalties and sentences to take the worst, most violent people off the street and punish the fuck out of the biggest dealers, which I had no problem at all with and still don't.

    I lived on the edge of the Hilltop in the early 90's and a lot of people were getting shot, robbed, beaten and assaulted by gangs every week. Fuck that shit. I was happy whey they locked a bunch of those fucks up and threw away the key. And I'd do it again with heroin dealers if they start spraying automatics around neighborhoods, parks and schools.
    But these guys didn't have other opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuck off, crack smoker.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,427 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    So should we jail hillbillies for using those?
    Again, it's not the drug, it's the attendant criminality that surrounds the drug trade and impacts wider society that escalated to a very dangerous point in the late 80's to mid-90's where they enhanced penalties and sentences to take the worst, most violent people off the street and punish the fuck out of the biggest dealers, which I had no problem at all with and still don't.

    I lived on the edge of the Hilltop in the early 90's and a lot of people were getting shot, robbed, beaten and assaulted by gangs every week. Fuck that shit. I was happy whey they locked a bunch of those fucks up and threw away the key. And I'd do it again with heroin dealers if they start spraying automatics around neighborhoods, parks and schools.
    But these guys didn't have other opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuck off, crack smoker.
    Me thinks this nickname is going to stick.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
    So should we jail hillbillies for using those?
    Again, it's not the drug, it's the attendant criminality that surrounds the drug trade and impacts wider society that escalated to a very dangerous point in the late 80's to mid-90's where they enhanced penalties and sentences to take the worst, most violent people off the street and punish the fuck out of the biggest dealers, which I had no problem at all with and still don't.

    I lived on the edge of the Hilltop in the early 90's and a lot of people were getting shot, robbed, beaten and assaulted by gangs every week. Fuck that shit. I was happy whey they locked a bunch of those fucks up and threw away the key. And I'd do it again with heroin dealers if they start spraying automatics around neighborhoods, parks and schools.
    But these guys didn't have other opportunities!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuck off, crack smoker.
    You should dip your little lure in some and maybe you'll catch a fish this weekend.







    Or dive into a kerosene dumpster, either way.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2017



    Who lives in the inner city anyway?

    White people. Inner cities are becoming less and less black all the time. Haven't you read the news and seen the protests?

    Where the hell have you been, Boobs?
    Its the endless cycle of real estate. Trash the inner cities, buy them cheap and you have close to town multi million dollar real estate again

    Lather rinse repeat
    Some like to call that "Gentrification".
    One man's Gentrification is another man's Displacement.
    Winners win.


    Shit like this keeps me coming back to this hellhole.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Mosster47 said:

    AZDuck said:

    This is why people are kneeling at football gaymes

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    So black people are killed at a much higher rate in conservative states than in liberal states?

    That is both profound and shocking...
    You’re not reading the chart correctly as DC Maryland California and New York have disparities as well.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.
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