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This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.Sledog said:
So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?allpurpleallgold said:
Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.Sledog said:
long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTHallpurpleallgold said:
Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.Fenderbender123 said:If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?
This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.
Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
@RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.
Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH -
I really think your some coke bottle glasses wearing twink.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I want you to express what you really think.Sledog said:
Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.Sledog said:
I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.pawz said:Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.
I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
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Effects? The laws were meant to incarcerate people convicted just like all laws. I ain't the guy to talk to about changing them. Maybe your congressman can help.pawz said:Sledog said:
Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.Sledog said:
I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.pawz said:Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.
I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
We get it.
AGAIN, you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
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Meth rules but crack is still popular in the inner city. Heroine started making a come back in the mid 2000's. Illegals run the drug smuggling trade. $400.00 for some mope to drive a load over. The Colombians bailed out by 2000 because they had the illegals take many smaller loads instead of one larger one and it was cheaper with zero risk.salemcoog said:
This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.Sledog said:
So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?allpurpleallgold said:
Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.Sledog said:
long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTHallpurpleallgold said:
Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.Fenderbender123 said:If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?
This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.
Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
@RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.
Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH -
Hey Cleetus, this weekend you gonna get a couple two-b-fers, some gasoline and have a bonfire in the front yard?Sledog said:
Effects? The laws were meant to incarcerate people convicted just like all laws. I ain't the guy to talk to about changing them. Maybe your congressman can help.pawz said:Sledog said:
Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.Sledog said:
I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.pawz said:Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.
I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
We get it.
AGAIN, you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
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I'm guessing Boobs weighs 97 pounds and couldn't whip cream.oregonblitzkrieg said:
There are more people in America calling other people racist than there are racist people in America. The left and its propaganda machines (Washington Post, NY Times, etc.) stoke racial division on purpose. Just look at Boobs. He's convinced everyone who doesn't support the kneelers are racist. He's not an isolated case. His buddies think the same way, they're the guys in Berkeley with black masks and truncheons, trying to beat up anyone who disagrees with their narrative. That's Soros/the Washington Post in action.2001400ex said:
Oh so there aren't racist people in America. Only people calling other people racist.oregonblitzkrieg said:I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.
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It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.
I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws. -
So you are saying that because old rich white people (hi Race) can afford their drug. They should have lesser penalties?TurdBuffer said:It wasn't the substance or weight that led to tougher sentencing laws. It was the violence, the gangs, the daily shootings, the drive-by shootings with automatic weapons, and the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire of careless, dangerous thugs who would spray an entire bus stop with bullets to shoot one member of a different gang, then say, "Well, those other people shouldn't have been there." The feds decided to return that sentiment in-kind and had most of the country behind them.
I'm amazed that 7 pages in, nobody has mentioned the inconvenient and relevant fact that it was the violence tearing apart neighborhoods that most influenced congress and two presidents to pass tougher sentencing laws. But it's easier to smugly indict everyone associated with those laws as racist while ignoring the impetus for those laws.
The true issue is really state by state, as each state has their own laws. But as time has gone on, States have relaxed drug laws from the period of the war on drugs and the origination of the original stiff drug laws.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/03/fewer_in_alabama_serving_time.amp
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So should we jail hillbillies for using those?salemcoog said:
This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.Sledog said:
So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?allpurpleallgold said:
Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.Sledog said:
long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTHallpurpleallgold said:
Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.Fenderbender123 said:If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?
This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.
Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
@RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.
Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH -
Stop using inner city. Say black people instead.Sledog said:
Meth rules but crack is still popular in the inner city. Heroine started making a come back in the mid 2000's. Illegals run the drug smuggling trade. $400.00 for some mope to drive a load over. The Colombians bailed out by 2000 because they had the illegals take many smaller loads instead of one larger one and it was cheaper with zero risk.salemcoog said:
This was true 15 years ago. Now it's meth heroine and opioids. All equally addictive as crack. but even more deadly to the end user. Compared to the above mentioned. Coke and crack are dead for the most part.Sledog said:
So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?allpurpleallgold said:
Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.Sledog said:
long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTHallpurpleallgold said:
Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.Fenderbender123 said:If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?
This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.
Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
@RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.
Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
We all know what you mean. Be honest.
