Guaranteed Basic Income
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This statement is fucked. Especially since entrepreneurship is more accessible with the internet. People with capital are going to create what is needed and since UBI will spread out capital, you're going to have a more competitive market which lowers prices.Fenderbender123 said:Minimum wage, basic income, etc...there is no benefit so long as the market is free to adjust prices to compensate. Essentially it does nothing good or bad.
If a price ceiling is implemented, it causes problems that aren't worth the benefit.
Politicians know all this, which is why minimum wage and basic income are discussed seriously, but nobody will fuck with prices. -
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It will be classless pertaining to how they dole out UBI, as it will be a flat fixed rate.Sledog said:
No such thing as classless regarding economic status. Never has been, never will be.Gwad said:communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
Universal Basic Income would be classless and personal possession of property would still exist. The 'this is communism' argument is just some dumb argument from broken baby boomers who took in too much war time propaganda when they were younger.
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Well big corporations are already taking the ball and running to tax havens. The current fiat status of our currency means that this is already going to happen, the dollar is going to shit sooner or later. Globalism doesn't have a long term viability anyways, it is only sustained by unlimited growth. Its perpetuation up to this point has been supported by taking things under the guise of 'spreading democracy'.salemcoog said:
Sane people agree that our economic and political structure is gamed to benefit the rich. I'm all for fair taxing of the rich. I'm all for eliminating tax deductions for everyone as well. A flat, tiered tax is the way to go imo.Gwad said:I'd say what we have now is closer to communism as you never actually own your property due to taxes and levees. But with what we have now the wealth of the nation is funneled upward to make rich people richer.
Your plan is however expensive and it would need absolute isolationism for it to work. For if you are going to take it to the rich, you are going to have to stop them from taking their ball and running to a more tax friendly country. The same with big corporations.
This plan doesn't mesh with the progressive ideal of globalism, at all. It would require Economic Nationalism to a degree that would make even Troomps blush. -
Ya Millenials were only raised by knuckle dragging baby boomers, i mean c'mon cut em some slack.TurdBuffer said:And people say Millennials are entitled. Can you believe it? It's such an unfair stereotype.
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If true, why are u out in such a hurry to give it all away?Gwad said:
Well big corporations are already taking the ball and running to tax havens. The current fiat status of our currency means that this is already going to happen, the dollar is going to shit sooner or later. Globalism doesn't have a long term viability anyways, it is only sustained by unlimited growth. Its perpetuation up to this point has been supported by taking things under the guise of 'spreading democracy'.salemcoog said:
Sane people agree that our economic and political structure is gamed to benefit the rich. I'm all for fair taxing of the rich. I'm all for eliminating tax deductions for everyone as well. A flat, tiered tax is the way to go imo.Gwad said:I'd say what we have now is closer to communism as you never actually own your property due to taxes and levees. But with what we have now the wealth of the nation is funneled upward to make rich people richer.
Your plan is however expensive and it would need absolute isolationism for it to work. For if you are going to take it to the rich, you are going to have to stop them from taking their ball and running to a more tax friendly country. The same with big corporations.
This plan doesn't mesh with the progressive ideal of globalism, at all. It would require Economic Nationalism to a degree that would make even Troomps blush. -
And Millennials love to scapegoat and blame everyone else for their failings. Just like you did here. Classic. Perfection.Gwad said:
Ya Millenials were only raised by knuckle dragging baby boomers, i mean c'mon cut em some slack.TurdBuffer said:And people say Millennials are entitled. Can you believe it? It's such an unfair stereotype.
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Can I get an IP address check on @collegedoog and this cat?Gwad said:
Ya Millenials were only raised by knuckle dragging baby boomers, i mean c'mon cut em some slack.TurdBuffer said:And people say Millennials are entitled. Can you believe it? It's such an unfair stereotype.
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Can I get an IP address check on @collegedoog and this cat?Gwad said:
Ya Millenials were only raised by knuckle dragging baby boomers, i mean c'mon cut em some slack.TurdBuffer said:And people say Millennials are entitled. Can you believe it? It's such an unfair stereotype.
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UBI may become necessary in the future as Amazon and big tech destroy more jobs. Increased automation coupled with an increase in population is a potential formula for disaster and social upheaval on a scale we've never seen before. On top of that we continue to take in hundreds of thousands of immigrants who take hundreds of thousands of jobs away from people already living here. End ALL immigration except for the most prized catches, like rocket scientists.
