You motherfuckers are too hard on old Lambo
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Every big time program has coaches that are decent journeymen but probably should have stayed at the assistant level. It doesn't make you a doog to say that. He did ok, but he got fired... had the whole PAC-9 incident not happened James would have stayed on and Lambo would have probably stayed assistant for much longer. WHo knows?
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Lambo couldn't get hired by any other school as a head coach.ApostleofGrief said:Every big time program has coaches that are decent journeymen but probably should have stayed at the assistant level. It doesn't make you a doog to say that. He did ok, but he got fired... had the whole PAC-9 incident not happened James would have stayed on and Lambo would have probably stayed assistant for much longer. WHo knows?
That is not a decent journeyman. That is a fucking failure. -
not with that win %... It is true that Lambo was the first attempt to prolong the James era. The second time it was tried was with Gilby, and then remember how idiots were saying Coach Willingham was just like Don James? What a load of horseshit that was. Then when Coach Peete was hired, again, idiots were saying he was just like Don James. You see this happen all over the place. The insider from some bygone era is hired in an attempt to restore old glory daysDennis_DeYoung said:
Lambo couldn't get hired by any other school as a head coach.ApostleofGrief said:Every big time program has coaches that are decent journeymen but probably should have stayed at the assistant level. It doesn't make you a doog to say that. He did ok, but he got fired... had the whole PAC-9 incident not happened James would have stayed on and Lambo would have probably stayed assistant for much longer. WHo knows?
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Spot on except the Lambo teams weren't really that tough. We couldn't run the ball in 98, the defenses got shredded a few times every year.Dennis_DeYoung said:The season before Lambo took over we were a legit top 5 team with some morale problems.
Lambo proceeded to turn a bunch of stocked rosters into 7-4 seasons. The sanctions were always overplayed. They didn't hurt recruiting that bad (or else we could've never been good in '97) and partially that was because we got them at a time when rosters were drawing down from 95-85.
The reality is that Lambo fucked up in '94 badly. That was a great team. We didn't lose to Oregon because of sanctions. We lost because of incompetence.
Plenty of teams have gone 10-1 or 11-0 on sanctions. Lambo didn't come from 21 points ahead to tie USC 21-21 in '95 because he had sanctions. He did that because he was a moron.
The two years the sanctions should've really fucked us up would've been '96 and '97, but those were our best teams. We had a million draft picks on both.
The reason we were better in '96 was because the coaching error term was brought down with the ability for our team to just fucking run Corey. That was the reason we won 9 games.
The two games we lost were 1) total incompetence (a loss to ASU where we started the wrong QB and the wrong RB) and 2) a team that wasn't prepared at ND.
Sanctions didn't have shit to do with it. We also lost to a fucking Colorado team in the Holiday Bowl because we weren't prepared.
In '97 we were routinely out coached and embarrassed. We had some injuries, but by that time everyone on the team hated Lambo because he was handicapping us.
So, fuck Lambo. Both coaches found mediocrity very quickly. One from the top, the other from the bottom. But neither of them were any fucking good.
There are many coaches who are good, but not elite: Kyle Whittingham, Mike Leach, Bo S, Hayden Fry, Gary Andersen, Bill Snyder, Brett Bielema, etc.
All of those guys would've been better than what either of the clowns we've had were.
Lambo was completely mediocre. If he'd had the program for 20 years we would go 7-5 every year for a while then descend into some 3-8 kind of seasons. We'd be tough, but recruit like shit and have no in game advantage.
Sark would keep us at 7-5 every year (with occasional descent) by recruiting well enough and keeping the whack-a-mole going so that we never sucked at everything at once.
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And he beat Miami in Miami. Something Slick didn't do.CuntWaffle said:Lambo beat Saban
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Kyle Wittingham kills it with the 93/94 roster. He's not elite but he's a top fifteen, maybe top ten coach with a neutral roster.
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Lambo had to face a ranked Ohio State.
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Ty did too.DerekJohnson said:Lambo had to face a ranked Ohio State.