LeBron
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I agree with this. He'd have been helped as much or more than he was hurt by that era.NEsnake12 said:
This. Everyone always points to "but LeBron wouldn't be as great against 80's defense!!!" while completely ignoring how much of a defensive monster he'd have been playing in that era.RaceBannon said:I'm so old I used to argue against Jordan and say that Magic or Kareem or the Doctor or the Russell Celts were better and Jordan hasn't done shit and he'll never have the rings. I even liked Earl Monroe way better. He was who I was in the driveway shooting hoops alone.
I came to accept Jordan as the GOAT, kind of, because I still think the old school guys were way tuffer like you guys think MJ was tuffer than Lebron.
We like the guys we grew up with the best. We rip anyone who comes after and threatens them. Then we accept what is and argue about another one.
But Lebron could have played thug ball if that is what was being played. -
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I'd take Bird. He'd destroy people in the 3 point era.
Plus he is the whitest motherfucker ever to play the game. And that would piss off the BLM folks to no end.
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Basketball sucks dick
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Lebron still has the stain of JJ Barea guarding him in the Finals. But he's done some legendary things that are inching him closer to Jordan.
Game 6 at Boston, Lebron had the best performance I've ever seen. That Spurs series was incredible. And last year is the one that makes passing Jordan possible imho. Michael Jordan was the best player on the best team of all time but only because Lebron beat the 73 win Warriors.
I think all the talk about it needs to simmer until the Finals though. There's a real chance the Warriors sweep and it's going to be hard to make the pro Lebron argument if that happens. -
Even tho I cant be swayed from my LeBron stance... This is good stuff. Many good points being made by both sides.
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Agree that Dallas is the festering sore on his record. He'd be 4 and 3.allpurpleallgold said:Lebron still has the stain of JJ Barea guarding him in the Finals. But he's done some legendary things that are inching him closer to Jordan.
Game 6 at Boston, Lebron had the best performance I've ever seen. That Spurs series was incredible. And last year is the one that makes passing Jordan possible imho. Michael Jordan was the best player on the best team of all time but only because Lebron beat the 73 win Warriors.
I think all the talk about it needs to simmer until the Finals though. There's a real chance the Warriors sweep and it's going to be hard to make the pro Lebron argument if that happens.
Lose to the Warriors and he's 3 and 5.
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Bird played one NBA season without a 3 point linePurpleThrobber said:I'd take Bird. He'd destroy people in the 3 point era.
Plus he is the whitest motherfucker ever to play the game. And that would piss off the BLM folks to no end. -
I'm assuming you mean pre-knee injury Baltimore Bullets Earl Monroe...RaceBannon said:I even liked Earl Monroe way better. He was who I was in the driveway shooting hoops alone.
And if you haven't already, read "Foul" The biography of Connie Hawkins... -
Came to post pretty much the same thing. After what he did in the finals last year how can anyone say otherwise? He is unquestionably in striking distance. Some people for whatever reason (being an AAU crybaby, running away to the Heat, etc) decided to hate him and wrote him off permanently. And LOLOLOL @ using the generation argument against him. LeBron in the 90s would beast the shit out of people.CuntWaffle said:I drank the Lebron haterade until he won it all last year. He doesn't have MJ's legacy yet, but it certainly is within striking distance now. If he would have lost last year to the Warriors then that dream of being as legendary as MJ would have been out the window. He put the team on his back though and proved to be the alpha.
As a player Lebron is leagues better than MJ ever was in terms of skill/size/athleticism, however, you could argue that a few others since MJ have been as well. It's hard to compare completely different era's as the game and players are always evolving. The NBA now is a pussified offensive stats padding league compared to the MJ era.
It's dumb to just compare MJs total rings to Lebrons at this point just as it is dumb to compare Lebron's modern day inflated NBA stats (he is going to shatter everything Jordan did). You have to look at it from a much broader view. At this point Lebron is #2 but I think he will end up #1 because of how he has evolved his game from an athletic freak to a well rounded floor general, he still has quite a few elite years left.
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And all of them with hard foul defense and various degrees of handchecking.dnc said:
Bird played one NBA season without a 3 point linePurpleThrobber said:I'd take Bird. He'd destroy people in the 3 point era.
Plus he is the whitest motherfucker ever to play the game. And that would piss off the BLM folks to no end.
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LeBron and Kobe are/were both better basketball players than MJ.
MJ was the Beatles of basketball. It doesn't matter how good anyone else is, they aren't MJ.
Robert Horry has seven rings with three different teams. That makes him the best player ever by the MJ defenders who only throw out ring numbers standard. -
Of course he would still beast people in the 90s. If Jordan played today his career stats (which people use in the Lebron v Jordan argument) would be inflated offensively as well. That is all I'm saying.Gladstone said:
Came to post pretty much the same thing. After what he did in the finals last year how can anyone say otherwise? He is unquestionably in striking distance. Some people for whatever reason (being an AAU crybaby, running away to the Heat, etc) decided to hate him and wrote him off permanently. And LOLOLOL @ using the generation argument against him. LeBron in the 90s would beast the shit out of people.CuntWaffle said:I drank the Lebron haterade until he won it all last year. He doesn't have MJ's legacy yet, but it certainly is within striking distance now. If he would have lost last year to the Warriors then that dream of being as legendary as MJ would have been out the window. He put the team on his back though and proved to be the alpha.
As a player Lebron is leagues better than MJ ever was in terms of skill/size/athleticism, however, you could argue that a few others since MJ have been as well. It's hard to compare completely different era's as the game and players are always evolving. The NBA now is a pussified offensive stats padding league compared to the MJ era.
It's dumb to just compare MJs total rings to Lebrons at this point just as it is dumb to compare Lebron's modern day inflated NBA stats (he is going to shatter everything Jordan did). You have to look at it from a much broader view. At this point Lebron is #2 but I think he will end up #1 because of how he has evolved his game from an athletic freak to a well rounded floor general, he still has quite a few elite years left.
It's hard. -
Robert Horry wasn't the best player on those teams, fucktard.Mosster47 said:LeBron and Kobe are/were both better basketball players than MJ.
MJ was the Beatles of basketball. It doesn't matter how good anyone else is, they aren't MJ.
Robert Horry has seven rings with three different teams. That makes him the best player ever by the MJ defenders who only throw out ring numbers standard. -
Big Shot Rob.
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People forget that the Sacramento Queens would have made the Finals if not for Rob
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And Tim DonaghyRaceBannon said:People forget that the Sacramento Queens would have made the Finals if not for Rob
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It was impliedTierbsHsotBoobs said:
And Tim DonaghyRaceBannon said:People forget that the Sacramento Queens would have made the Finals if not for Rob
We can check with @Doogles but I bet you could still start a bar fight today talking about that series -
RaceBannon said:
It was impliedTierbsHsotBoobs said:
And Tim DonaghyRaceBannon said:People forget that the Sacramento Queens would have made the Finals if not for Rob
We can check with @Doogles but I bet you could still start a bar fight today talking about that series
Kings won 5 games that series. Meet me at the 7-11 if you think otherwise.RaceBannon said:
It was impliedTierbsHsotBoobs said:
And Tim DonaghyRaceBannon said:People forget that the Sacramento Queens would have made the Finals if not for Rob
We can check with @Doogles but I bet you could still start a bar fight today talking about that series
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LeBron wouldn't get bullied by the likes of Lambier, Salley or Rodman.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Lebron couldn't handle Jordan rules or the bad boys, let alone no call celtics. Gtfo millennialrustysavage said:LeBron is better than MJ, and isn't as close as people make it seem. He does everything that can be done on a court. He plays with scrubs and takes them to championships year after year. He's the best all around player ever. He would beat MJ 7 out of 10 in one on one. He plays in the most athletic/diverse iteration of the NBA ever seen to date, and absolutely dominates.
It's just too bad that so many people dislike dominance today. We are luckier than we will ever know for being able to watch him throughout his career.
I'm a life long Blazers fan.
Can't wait till he gets ahold of GS again. Hope Kyrie or k love show their face for a game or two.
He'd push their old shit in. -
An abominable sacrilege to suggest Lebron might be better than MJ. No one will ever be better than MJ. Cuck.
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Like a merlot that tastes like a cab?RoadDawg55 said:This guy has never played better. He really might overtake MJ. His game has aged so well.
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Nega, please. Anthony Mason, Ricky Mahorn, Oakley, Buck Williams...all would knock the shit out of Lebron.ThomasFremont said:
LeBron wouldn't get bullied by the likes of Lambier, Salley or Rodman.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Lebron couldn't handle Jordan rules or the bad boys, let alone no call celtics. Gtfo millennialrustysavage said:LeBron is better than MJ, and isn't as close as people make it seem. He does everything that can be done on a court. He plays with scrubs and takes them to championships year after year. He's the best all around player ever. He would beat MJ 7 out of 10 in one on one. He plays in the most athletic/diverse iteration of the NBA ever seen to date, and absolutely dominates.
It's just too bad that so many people dislike dominance today. We are luckier than we will ever know for being able to watch him throughout his career.
I'm a life long Blazers fan.
Can't wait till he gets ahold of GS again. Hope Kyrie or k love show their face for a game or two.
He'd push their old shit in.
He would adapt - but he wouldn't run unencumbered like today. -
5'9" Oakland streetballer Demetrius "Hook" Mitchell
Grew up with Jason Kidd and Gary Peyton, both of whom said Hook was better than them
Basically raised on street, started getting high at 9, only class he took in high school was gym, ended up in prison
Fuck MJ and LeBron, their charmed existence, and their "don't touch me" fag dunks -
Saying no one will ever be better is FS. Someone will.oregonblitzkrieg said:An abominable sacrilege to suggest Lebron might be better than MJ. No one will ever be better than MJ. Cuck.
It just won't be LeBron. -
I just don't see anyone surpassing him. He owned every aspect of the game and was right on the money every time it counted in critical games. They would have to be a hoops god to get any better than MJ.dnc said:
Saying no one will ever be better is FS. Someone will.oregonblitzkrieg said:An abominable sacrilege to suggest Lebron might be better than MJ. No one will ever be better than MJ. Cuck.
It just won't be LeBron. -
The rules change cuts both ways. LeBron can hit back.PurpleThrobber said:
Nega, please. Anthony Mason, Ricky Mahorn, Oakley, Buck Williams...all would knock the shit out of Lebron.ThomasFremont said:
LeBron wouldn't get bullied by the likes of Lambier, Salley or Rodman.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Lebron couldn't handle Jordan rules or the bad boys, let alone no call celtics. Gtfo millennialrustysavage said:LeBron is better than MJ, and isn't as close as people make it seem. He does everything that can be done on a court. He plays with scrubs and takes them to championships year after year. He's the best all around player ever. He would beat MJ 7 out of 10 in one on one. He plays in the most athletic/diverse iteration of the NBA ever seen to date, and absolutely dominates.
It's just too bad that so many people dislike dominance today. We are luckier than we will ever know for being able to watch him throughout his career.
I'm a life long Blazers fan.
Can't wait till he gets ahold of GS again. Hope Kyrie or k love show their face for a game or two.
He'd push their old shit in.
He would adapt - but he wouldn't run unencumbered like today.
Or are you trying to make the classic doog altitude case? -
This. Double Three Peat or go home.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I need to see four more championships.RoadDawg55 said:This guy has never played better. He really might overtake MJ. His game has aged so well.
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Quit for 2 years or go home
7 straight Finals -
Quook Post of the Day!RaceBannon said:Quit for 2 years or go home
7 straight Finals
