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I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
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Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
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I didn't mention Sark. Who is he? Does he post here? I mentioned the guy considered the best QB of his generation. You can throw Manning in there too if you want. Pressure them and they become average or worse and lose games. Same with Price. Tui had a running game. Wilson has a defense and a running game. UW has Price. When they win he looks good. When they lose he looks bad. Chicken or egg?Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
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There are pocket passers with the same ability. Guys like Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning come to mind right away, but of course this would be a dumb comparison as well since we're talking about NFL hall of fame level quarterbacks vs a college quarterback with very likely little chance of being drafted.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
My point is meant to be much simpler. Stats are fine, but winning games and coming up big when it counts matters a whole lot more. Like it or not, the quarterback plays an integral role in that and how well he performs that role isn't always reflected in the stats or the coaches play calling for that matter. Most quarterbacks, including Price as a redshirt senior, are given the option to change the play at the line of scrimmage if they don't like what they're seeing from the defense. Making things happen is part of the job, and Price has admirably publicly accepted these responsibilities. No need to treat him with pure kid gloves.
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Those three guys all had incredible pass protection their entire careers. You are proving the pro Price poonts for them.Southerndawg said:
There are pocket passers with the same ability. Guys like Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning come to mind right away, but of course this would be a dumb comparison as well since we're talking about NFL hall of fame level quarterbacks vs a college quarterback with very likely little chance of being drafted.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
My point is meant to be much simpler. Stats are fine, but winning games and coming up big when it counts matters a whole lot more. Like it or not, the quarterback plays an integral role in that and how well he performs that role isn't always reflected in the stats or the coaches play calling for that matter. Most quarterbacks, including Price as a redshirt senior, are given the option to change the play at the line of scrimmage if they don't like what they're seeing from the defense. Making things happen is part of the job, and Price has admirably publicly accepted these responsibilities. No need to treat him with pure kid gloves.
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Montana Rodgers and Manning have all been ripped for losing too. The 86 Giants beat Joe 49-0 and sent him to the hospital.
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Actually, that's not entirely true. Among the biggest wins these guys have had have come against the best teams in the league, facing defenses more than capable of bringing heat, and in Manning's case, his play at Indy took significant heat off the line. His loss there had a stunning effect. They instantly went from playing at or near championship level, to cellar dweller. As good as he is, I don't think many would have predicted that level of impact. He is an excellent example of a pocket passing quarterback who has the ability to make defenses pay when they try to pressure him, with his field awareness, calm under pressure, ability to read defenses and throw the ball. That's not Price, but again, that is not a fair comparison to virtually any other quarterback either.dnc said:
Those three guys all had incredible pass protection their entire careers. You are proving the pro Price poonts for them.Southerndawg said:
There are pocket passers with the same ability. Guys like Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning come to mind right away, but of course this would be a dumb comparison as well since we're talking about NFL hall of fame level quarterbacks vs a college quarterback with very likely little chance of being drafted.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
My point is meant to be much simpler. Stats are fine, but winning games and coming up big when it counts matters a whole lot more. Like it or not, the quarterback plays an integral role in that and how well he performs that role isn't always reflected in the stats or the coaches play calling for that matter. Most quarterbacks, including Price as a redshirt senior, are given the option to change the play at the line of scrimmage if they don't like what they're seeing from the defense. Making things happen is part of the job, and Price has admirably publicly accepted these responsibilities. No need to treat him with pure kid gloves. -
Under normal circumstances quarterbacks take heat for losses. It comes with the job. No other single position has a greater ability to impact the game. Not sure why Price should be immune from the same criticism.RaceBannon said:Montana Rodgers and Manning have all been ripped for losing too. The 86 Giants beat Joe 49-0 and sent him to the hospital.
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It was all Keith Price's fault that UW allowed 67 points in the 2011 Alamo Bowl and that UW has allowed 45+ points to Oregon and ASU this year.Southerndawg said:
There are pocket passers with the same ability. Guys like Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning come to mind right away, but of course this would be a dumb comparison as well since we're talking about NFL hall of fame level quarterbacks vs a college quarterback with very likely little chance of being drafted.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
My point is meant to be much simpler. Stats are fine, but winning games and coming up big when it counts matters a whole lot more. Like it or not, the quarterback plays an integral role in that and how well he performs that role isn't always reflected in the stats or the coaches play calling for that matter. Most quarterbacks, including Price as a redshirt senior, are given the option to change the play at the line of scrimmage if they don't like what they're seeing from the defense. Making things happen is part of the job, and Price has admirably publicly accepted these responsibilities. No need to treat him with pure kid gloves.
He really needs to block for himself better, play every snap on defense, and be the kicker on the kickoff team too.
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C'mon boobs. I said nothing of the Alamo Bowel. He played great in that game, had doogs seeing special seasons ahead. After all, he was the best quarterback on the field, right?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It was all Keith Price's fault that UW allowed 67 points in the 2011 Alamo Bowl and that UW has allowed 45+ points to Oregon and ASU this year.Southerndawg said:
There are pocket passers with the same ability. Guys like Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning come to mind right away, but of course this would be a dumb comparison as well since we're talking about NFL hall of fame level quarterbacks vs a college quarterback with very likely little chance of being drafted.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Price is a pocket passer. Comparing him to three mobile QBs is dumb.Southerndawg said:
I get ripping Sark at every opportunity and don't disagree that it is the coaches responsibility to give every player on the team the best opportunity to perform at the highest level at their respective positions. What I don't get is making excuses for Price at every turn when it's clear he has a fairly glaring inability to deal with pressure. Simple fact is he has a track record of going to shit when the pressure comes. Most quarterbacks suffer a statistical drop when pressured, but Price is not a Wilson, or a Manziel, or a Tui, or any one of a number of quarterbacks who have the ability to consistently make defenses pay when they bring the heat. It's not really what or who he is.RaceBannon said:Tom Brady looks like shit when he's pressured. Every qb who ever played does. That's why REAL coaches protect the fucking qb.
My point is meant to be much simpler. Stats are fine, but winning games and coming up big when it counts matters a whole lot more. Like it or not, the quarterback plays an integral role in that and how well he performs that role isn't always reflected in the stats or the coaches play calling for that matter. Most quarterbacks, including Price as a redshirt senior, are given the option to change the play at the line of scrimmage if they don't like what they're seeing from the defense. Making things happen is part of the job, and Price has admirably publicly accepted these responsibilities. No need to treat him with pure kid gloves.
He really needs to block for himself better, play every snap on defense, and be the kicker on the kickoff team too.
The defense looked like shit in all three games you've mentioned, but so did Price against Oregon and ASU.
