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The Seahawks are going to trade Richard Sherman

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,839
Carroll and Schneider can't quit talking about. Sherman doesn't strike me as a guy who responds well to being slighted. They must already have an offer they're comfortable with and are trying to drive up the price, otherwise talking about it so publicly makes no damn sense. No idea what they can get for him, mid to late first rounder would be my guest.

Really bizzarre the way they've handled this. Pete must just be done with him on the sidelines.

And yes I said before this wouldn't happen. Things change fast out here, ups and downs, new hobby, yadda, yadda.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    How could they do that to the 12s?
  • Intersectional_Dawg
    Intersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
  • Intersectional_Dawg
    Intersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Did they fire Bevell yet?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club

    Did they fire Bevell yet?

    This

    If they fire Sherman for going after Bevel the franchise is over. If Sherman is washed up then fuck him
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
    They pick up another high pick in a defensive draft, take two corners and get back $27+ million in cap space over the next 2 seasons.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,101
    doogie said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
    They pick up another high pick in a defensive draft, take two corners and get back $27+ million in cap space over the next 2 seasons.
    TWBBWD
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    doogie said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
    They pick up another high pick in a defensive draft, take two corners and get back $27+ million in cap space over the next 2 seasons.
    I read it was $12 million this year and $12 million next, where did you get $27?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    doogie said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
    They pick up another high pick in a defensive draft, take two corners and get back $27+ million in cap space over the next 2 seasons.
    And their OC and OL would still be dogshit.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,393
    I like the scenario, it would be amazing if another team was FS enough to take him. He probably only has 2 or 3 years of above average play left, they'd have to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him, and his attitude is atrocious.
    doogie said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    I see drafting a young corner as a cap move.
    They pick up another high pick in a defensive draft, take two corners and get back $27+ million in cap space over the next 2 seasons.
  • Intersectional_Dawg
    Intersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
    I'm waiting for Tequilla to chime in.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    doogie said:

    Clayton

    Apparently it's $11.4 million this year and $11 million next year. Clayton must have sighted the total cap hit, but the prorated signing bonus hits the Hawks cap regardless, all they can get out from under with a trade are his 2017-2018 salaries.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Belichick will get him for a 7th round pick.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,139
    I hope he gets traded. It sounds like a recipe for disaster if they keep him after everything being so public.

    The Seahawks have been a little too loyal to their core players. Someone needs to go.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I hope he gets traded. It sounds like a recipe for disaster if they keep him after everything being so public.

    The Seahawks have been a little too loyal to their offensive coordinator. He needs to go.

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    He's not a top 5 corner anymore.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    He's not a top 5 corner anymore.
    My bad. Top 3.

    At worst.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited April 2017
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    He's not a top 5 corner anymore.
    My bad. Top 3.

    At worst.
    On a slide. It's risk/reward of whether He's worth all the sideline and off field BS for declining production.


    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-cornerbacks-this-season/
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I don't really buy the distraction thing. If they do trade him it would be because of the cap.

    I see it the opposite. They only save $12 million per year on the cap for trading him, which isn't a big cap hit for a top 5 (at worst) corner. I don't buy it as a cap issue. Especially not when they basically have no returning corners besides Sherman who are worth a damn with Shead hurt.

    If they move him it's because they're tired of him (and they love the CB's in this draft).
    He's not a top 5 corner anymore.
    My bad. Top 3.

    At worst.
    On a slide. It's risk/reward of whether He's worth all the sideline and off field BS for declining production.


    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-cornerbacks-this-season/
    Flagged for PFF grades
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited April 2017
    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against (through it's posting at Thanksgiving, which again makes the whole list kind of meaningless). But still, some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against. Some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.

    The root cause of the histronics is Bevell
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited April 2017
    dnc said:

    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against (through it's posting at Thanksgiving, which again makes the whole list kind of meaningless). But still, some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.

    Ike Taylor couldn't cover a McDonald's tab so I'll take mine thanks. But you and boobs keep on Hookin'!!!!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against (through it's posting at Thanksgiving, which again makes the whole list kind of meaningless). But still, some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.

    Ike Taylor couldn't cover a McDonald's tab so I'll take mine thanks.
    You're right, Sam Monson is a much better cover corner.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,139
    dnc said:

    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against (through it's posting at Thanksgiving, which again makes the whole list kind of meaningless). But still, some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.

    PFF sucks, but he's good.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    Boobs is right. We actually do have a great idea of the damage Bevel has done. And he's still here.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    This list is just as meaningless

    Sherman #1.

    Even the PFF link noted Sherman's the hardest corner in the league to complete a pass against. Some decline!

    I agree the sideline histrionics are an issue. But on the field he's as good as anyone.

    The root cause of the histronics is Bevell
    Bevell's a part of it, but he has gone off on Richard and other players.

    The media thing is pretty stupid, but he has been petty, and I don't blame the Seahawks for wanting him to at least play ball with them.

    He's probably my favorite player, but 2016 wasn't a good year for him. If they can get some good value for him, fine. I get it.
  • Intersectional_Dawg
    Intersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
    Sports beat reporters are usually total mouth breathers, so I couldn't care less that he stopped talking to them.