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Kevin King what am I missing?

NeGgaPlEaSe
NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
"WEAKNESSES Timed speed and play speed are both concerns. Sluggish feet in press allow quick-releasers to shoot past him. Unable to find necessary acceleration for functional makeup speed. Hands are flimsy in his jams. Could use more upper body strength. High center of gravity makes sudden change of direction a challenge. NFL ball production could be a concern. Takes path to his man over paths to the ball. Lacks desired twitch for NFL transitioning to the throws. Takes too long from bail technique and backpedal to plant and burst on the ball. Ankle biter willing to engage in too many arm tackles and blind shoulder rolls."

Didn't he have the fastest shuttle and some other combine numbers during spring camp?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Where's this eval coming from? I'm expecting him to destroy the combine, though his 40 time might not be special. Everything else will be.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
    edited March 2017
    Actually listed at 6'3 192lbs combine measurements. And it came from combine scouts.

    STRENGTHS Rare height for the position. Solid job of restricting catch window on routes outside the numbers. Shoves receivers toward boundary and drifts into their running lane to decrease catch opportunity. Length creates challenge for receivers used to winning at the high point. Instinctive with good feel for finding football. Allowed just one touchdown over last 101 targets. Six career interceptions with hands to make the circus pick. Patient from press coverage. Quick to turn and locate once his back is to the quarterback. Saw increase in pass breakups in senior season. Willing to get physical with blocking receivers when it comes time to disengage and make a tackle. Has played all four spots in secondary and slot corner as well.
    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kevin-king?id=2557996
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    I hope scouts really are seeing those negatives, I'd love for the Hawks to be able to grab him in the second round
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,301
    I didn't know this thread existed, as I posted some of these same thoughts in another thread, but I think King is the most underrated player for the Huskies in this draft. He should be a 2nd-3rd round pick. He's the perfect size for the Seahawks for a S/CB backup, a flexible spot where they're really weak at now and losing games because of this lack of depth. I'm sure the Seahawks are looking hard at him.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    How is Uconn so shit and they pump out atheltic freaks in secondary?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    King will likely out perform is draft position but he's probably more of a guy that will fit a certain style/system versus being a plug and play guy like Jones or Peters who would be successful in any system.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Tequilla said:

    King will likely out perform is draft position but he's probably more of a guy that will fit a certain style/system versus being a plug and play guy like Jones or Peters who would be successful in any system.

    Baabs is right...
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    If Seattle takes him. If not probably early second.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    He still hasn't been talked about at all as a first rounder.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    He still hasn't been talked about at all as a first rounder.
    I'm guessing last half-dozen of the 1st thru the first dozen 2nd picks.

    6'3 4.4 guys with + ball skills, and a willing tackler aren't in every draft. He should get snatched by then.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    He still hasn't been talked about at all as a first rounder.
    I don't recall Peters being talked about as a first round, until draft day. I think that one handed catch and his combine performance lands him first day. But i agree on Seattle.
    Who do you draft if you are picking at 15-26 and you need a corner? Jones or King? That's a tough call
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    He still hasn't been talked about at all as a first rounder.
    I don't recall Peters being talked about as a first round, until draft day. I think that one handed catch and his combine performance lands him first day. But i agree on Seattle.
    Who do you draft if you are picking at 15-26 and you need a corner? Jones or King? That's a tough call
    Peters was a first rounder on basically every mock draft.

    I'd still take Jones over King, but I love them both.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited March 2017
    Here's a post draft review of the 2015 mocks. Of the 10 final mocks listed, Peters was a first rounder in all 10 of them with an average draft slot of 21 (ranged from 11 to 27).

    He was definitely a consensus first rounder.

    So far King hasn't hit a single mock I've seen other than Rob Staton at SeahawksDraftBlog. I think he goes in the first more likely than not, but it's nowhere near the confidence I had that Peters was going in the first.


  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited March 2017
    He's getting some more recognition. Will be interesting to see where Jeremiah mocks him. I think the Seahawks pick will come down to him or Melifonwu. I can't decide who I want more:
    Since returning from the NFL Scouting Combine earlier this week, I've had several conversations with personnel executives and area scouts. It's always fascinating to find out which players are generating the most buzz as a result of their combine performance. One player who kept coming up in these conversations --Washington cornerback Kevin King.

    King has outstanding size and he ran much faster than evaluators expected. He also had an outstanding field workout, displaying excellent quickness and change-of-direction skills. Heading into the combine, I had King just outside my list of the draft's top 50 players, but he clearly established himself as a top-40 selection with his performance in Indianapolis. This draft is loaded with talented cornerbacks, but his combination of size, length, ball skills and speed could make him a late-first-round pick. -- Daniel Jeremiah
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    I hope scouts really are seeing those negatives, I'd love for the Hawks to be able to grab him in the second round

    Brandon Browner v.2.0
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    I disa
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I hope scouts really are seeing those negatives, I'd love for the Hawks to be able to grab him in the second round

    Brandon Browner v.2.0
    Browner was 220 pounds and ran a 4.6+. Outside of size, they don't play the same way.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I hope scouts really are seeing those negatives, I'd love for the Hawks to be able to grab him in the second round

    Brandon Browner v.2.0
    Brandon Browner would eat his chlidren to run a 4.43
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    With Sidney Muthafuckin Jones' injury, King may go before him now after strong combine metrics.

    I would not complain if the Seahawks got both King (2nd) and Jones (2nd or 3rd) after trading Richard Sherman.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    HFNY said:

    With Sidney Muthafuckin Jones' injury, King may go before him now after strong combine metrics.

    I would not complain if the Seahawks got both King (2nd) and Jones (2nd or 3rd) after trading Richard Sherman.

    They're not getting King in the second. First or not at all.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    That could be true. Todd McShay has King going to the Raiders at 24 and an NFL.com guy has King going to the Seahawks at #26.

    The signing of Luke Joeckel (can compete for a starting job at multiple positions) may give JS / PC flexibility in not having to draft an OL in the first few rounds. I really like Bolles and Lamp though.
    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    With Sidney Muthafuckin Jones' injury, King may go before him now after strong combine metrics.

    I would not complain if the Seahawks got both King (2nd) and Jones (2nd or 3rd) after trading Richard Sherman.

    They're not getting King in the second. First or not at all.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    HFNY said:

    That could be true. Todd McShay has King going to the Raiders at 24 and an NFL.com guy has King going to the Seahawks at #26.

    The signing of Luke Joeckel (can compete for a starting job at multiple positions) may give JS / PC flexibility in not having to draft an OL in the first few rounds. I really like Bolles and Lamp though.

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    With Sidney Muthafuckin Jones' injury, King may go before him now after strong combine metrics.

    I would not complain if the Seahawks got both King (2nd) and Jones (2nd or 3rd) after trading Richard Sherman.

    They're not getting King in the second. First or not at all.
    Yeah I've seen a few places mock King to Oakland at 24, Sid's injury may really help King out. At this point I'm just hoping Seattle can get him in the first.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
    edited March 2017
    24. Oakland Raiders: CB Kevin King, Washington

    King would’ve be a dream target for the late Al Davis: a physical press cornerback with elite size (6-foot-3, 200 pounds) and speed. It just so happens that current Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie also values those traits. King boosted his stock into the first round with an electric combine performance, running the 40 in 4.43 seconds while adding a 39.5-inch vertical jump, a 6.56-second three-cone, and a 3.89-second short shuttle to put himself in the 99th percentile for NFL corners. He’d challenge David Amerson for the starting job opposite Sean Smith from day one, with the goal of his taking over for Smith in the long term.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    24. Oakland Raiders: CB Kevin King, Washington

    King would’ve be a dream target for the late Al Davis: a physical press cornerback with elite size (6-foot-3, 200 pounds) and speed. It just so happens that current Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie also values those traits. King boosted his stock into the first round with an electric combine performance, running the 40 in 4.43 seconds while adding a 39.5-inch vertical jump, a 6.56-second three-cone, and a 3.89-second short shuttle to put himself in the 99th percentile for NFL corners. He’d challenge David Amerson for the starting job opposite Sean Smith from day one, with the goal of his taking over for Smith in the long term.

    Whose is this one?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    dnc said:

    24. Oakland Raiders: CB Kevin King, Washington

    King would’ve be a dream target for the late Al Davis: a physical press cornerback with elite size (6-foot-3, 200 pounds) and speed. It just so happens that current Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie also values those traits. King boosted his stock into the first round with an electric combine performance, running the 40 in 4.43 seconds while adding a 39.5-inch vertical jump, a 6.56-second three-cone, and a 3.89-second short shuttle to put himself in the 99th percentile for NFL corners. He’d challenge David Amerson for the starting job opposite Sean Smith from day one, with the goal of his taking over for Smith in the long term.

    Whose is this one?
    I think that's McShay's ANALysis

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    Now that king truly outperformed his entire position, does he move into the first round?

    If Seattle takes him. If not probably early second.
    He goes to #mypack.


    Cook it with grease.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    I hope scouts really are seeing those negatives, I'd love for the Hawks to be able to grab him in the second round

    Brandon Browner v.2.0
    Brandon Browner would eat his chlidren to run a 4.43
    That's rudicriss!!!