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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    2001400ex said:

    Again, one of the regulations you bitch about is the employer mandate to offer health insurance. Which to me is fucktarded, health insurance shouldn't be tied to your job. That being said, it's like you don't even have a basic understanding of Obamacare or the changes in the proposed plan.
    Okay I cant do this anymore.

    Noone said a damn thing about the regulation of the employer mandate to offer health insurance. You're talking in circles to yourself again and I'm losing brain cells that I can't get back attempting to engage with you.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    Okay I cant do this anymore.

    Noone said a damn thing about the regulation of the employer mandate to offer health insurance. You're talking in circles to yourself again and I'm losing brain cells that I can't get back attempting to engage with you.

    Maybe they need to pass the bill so you know what's in it.

    The CBO projects this will happen because the AHCA would repeal Obamacare’s individual mandate, so some people might not sign up for their employer’s health plan, with no threat of being fined later. But also, the GOP bill might induce more employers to stop offering health insurance.

    That’s because the bill would also repeal the employer mandate, which requires businesses above a certain size to offer health coverage to their workers.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/how-the-gops-health-care-bill-would-affect-people-insured-through-work/519420/
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    salemcoog said:

    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dhdawg said:

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Don't tell that to Salem. He just wants no regulations and doesn't care to know what it means.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    edited March 2017
    dhdawg said:

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    Why do you ignore the conflict between your "we don't need no regulations" to the removal of the employer mandate. Along with your "pull up your bootstraps" and get a job that offers medical insurance?
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,274
    salemcoog said:

    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    You seem upset.

    BTW -is this a case when it's OK for the states to get their rights trampled by the feds? You know, like when it comes to weed?

    You dumbfucks don't know if you're punched or bored. You just know no matter what Trump does, you're going to polish his helmet.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    2001400ex said:

    Why do you ignore the conflict between your "we don't need no regulations" to the removal of the employer mandate. Along with your "pull up your bootstraps" and get a job that offers medical insurance?
    I wasn't talking to you retard.

    And the market will correct itself should that boogie man of yours come down the pike. If a company isn't required to offer health ins to full time employees and pulls it... you can bet there will be a mass exodus from that company to other companies that do offer it. Competition is a great thing.

    Fortunately Obama didn't turn this country into your Socialist paradise, so if companies that are currently mandated to cover their employees stopped doing so, their employees still have a choice and opportunity to go somewhere else that offered a better benefit package. It would be a stupid thing for a business to do.


  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,274
    Yep.

    He's upset.


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    I wasn't talking to you retard.

    And the market will correct itself should that boogie man of yours come down the pike. If a company isn't required to offer health ins to full time employees and pulls it... you can bet there will be a mass exodus from that company to other companies that do offer it. Competition is a great thing.

    Fortunately Obama didn't turn this country into your Socialist paradise, so if companies that are currently mandated to cover their employees stopped doing so, their employees still have a choice and opportunity to go somewhere else that offered a better benefit package. It would be a stupid thing for a business to do.


    Then why weren't those companies offering insurance prior to the mandate? You think they'll continue to offer it just because?

    Think things through man. Sometimes it's not all about "free market".
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited March 2017
    salemcoog said:

    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    “Insurers aren’t interested at this point,” Linda Blumberg, a senior fellow on health policy at the Urban Institute, said in an interview. “It’s kind of a lot of effort for no necessary return.”

    Great reading as always.

    In order for it to have any impact you would need to scrap the minimum standards. Meaning all it would do is allow companies to sell junk in the states with the weakest regulation and the lowest taxes
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,807 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Maybe they need to pass the bill so you know what's in it.

    The CBO projects this will happen because the AHCA would repeal Obamacare’s individual mandate, so some people might not sign up for their employer’s health plan, with no threat of being fined later. But also, the GOP bill might induce more employers to stop offering health insurance.

    That’s because the bill would also repeal the employer mandate, which requires businesses above a certain size to offer health coverage to their workers.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/how-the-gops-health-care-bill-would-affect-people-insured-through-work/519420/
    I say we pass a bill that requires all democrats to pay the health insurance of two poor families. That'll fix shit right up and everyone will be happy!
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.
    Where was this TUFF talk during Obamacare?

    All we heard was you poors crying about your tyrannical gubmint penalty for not having health insurance.

    Sounds like you couldn't follow your own advice and get a REAL jerb...for 8 years.

    Loser.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,581 Founders Club

    Where was this TUFF talk during Obamacare?

    All we heard was you poors crying about your tyrannical gubmint penalty for not having health insurance.

    Sounds like you couldn't follow your own advice and get a REAL jerb...for 8 years.

    Loser.
    Because Obamacare fucked up the employer insurance

    Moron
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Im old enough to remember when health insurance was an "employee benefit" used as an incentive to attract and retain quality employees.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Because Obamacare fucked up the employer insurance

    Moron
    How?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited March 2017
    For the 47,378,312, 081st time...

    There is no free fucking market in healthcare. People don't decide to get sick or not based upon market conditions. Some people get cancer, some don't. Some people have kids with autism, leukemia, cleft palates, and some don't. Some people's kids are even getting measles again because fucking @pawz and Natural News thinks that vaccines are full of deadly mercury.

    Every other advanced fucking country on the planet has figured this out except the United Fucking States of Amurrica. Universal health coverage is a public good, just like the thin blue line of cops and the big red fire trucks and the little green soldiers.

    Anyone who thinks there is a market in healthcare has never had a family member with a chronic illness or a sudden healthcare emergency (like a heart attack or a cancer diagnosis) or they are being willfully fucking myopic.

    "I think I'm going to get prostate cancer this year, but I might be changing employers, so I'll wait until the third quarter."

    Fuck.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896

    Where was this TUFF talk during Obamacare?

    All we heard was you poors crying about your tyrannical gubmint penalty for not having health insurance.

    Sounds like you couldn't follow your own advice and get a REAL jerb...for 8 years.

    Loser.
    Ah Yes... The Libtard Prince chimes in. First of all, Please find the quote where I bitched about the penalty. The toothless penalty was really never enforced. ANd I'm not advocating for the new plan in it's present form. I'm just discounting your fucktard in arms' assertion that the Boogie Man is coming to steal everyones health insurance.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    dflea said:

    You seem upset.

    BTW -is this a case when it's OK for the states to get their rights trampled by the feds? You know, like when it comes to weed?

    You dumbfucks don't know if you're punched or bored. You just know no matter what Trump does, you're going to polish his helmet.
    I like to bitch about things that haven't nor will probably ever happen and cry like a drippy cunt "States rights!!!! States rights!!!.

    Why don't you peel the crust off of your pussy hat and go back out and make an honest living at what you do best.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    2001400ex said:

    Then why weren't those companies offering insurance prior to the mandate? You think they'll continue to offer it just because?

    Think things through man. Sometimes it's not all about "free market".
    They were. It's just not readily available info on Wikipedia, so you wouldn't know about it.
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