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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.
    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    That is something that should have been added into Obamacare a long time ago. What about the rest of the regulations? It seems as you take some away, you add some.... It's just they are regulations you agree with.

    Um. I don't really have an employer anymore, and the firm I work with pays all but $150 of my family's insurance and I put $400 a month into an HSA, which is really just another retirement vehicle. So I'm good. It's those less fortunate people that will get fucked. But you don't care​. Cause regulations and shit.

    Dumbass.
    This is the land of opportunity, even after 8 years of failed social engineering. It's why all those immigrants want in.

    I realize you wish to see our country continue down the road as the land of welfare. But I don't.

    If you are truly disabled, you will be taken care of.

    If you're just too lazy to better yourself to get a job that offers good benefits like company paid health insurance, then fuck you.
    Again, one of the regulations you bitch about is the employer mandate to offer health insurance. Which to me is fucktarded, health insurance shouldn't be tied to your job. That being said, it's like you don't even have a basic understanding of Obamacare or the changes in the proposed plan.
    Okay I cant do this anymore.

    Noone said a damn thing about the regulation of the employer mandate to offer health insurance. You're talking in circles to yourself again and I'm losing brain cells that I can't get back attempting to engage with you.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.
    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    That is something that should have been added into Obamacare a long time ago. What about the rest of the regulations? It seems as you take some away, you add some.... It's just they are regulations you agree with.

    Um. I don't really have an employer anymore, and the firm I work with pays all but $150 of my family's insurance and I put $400 a month into an HSA, which is really just another retirement vehicle. So I'm good. It's those less fortunate people that will get fucked. But you don't care​. Cause regulations and shit.

    Dumbass.
    This is the land of opportunity, even after 8 years of failed social engineering. It's why all those immigrants want in.

    I realize you wish to see our country continue down the road as the land of welfare. But I don't.

    If you are truly disabled, you will be taken care of.

    If you're just too lazy to better yourself to get a job that offers good benefits like company paid health insurance, then fuck you.
    Again, one of the regulations you bitch about is the employer mandate to offer health insurance. Which to me is fucktarded, health insurance shouldn't be tied to your job. That being said, it's like you don't even have a basic understanding of Obamacare or the changes in the proposed plan.
    Okay I cant do this anymore.

    Noone said a damn thing about the regulation of the employer mandate to offer health insurance. You're talking in circles to yourself again and I'm losing brain cells that I can't get back attempting to engage with you.

    Maybe they need to pass the bill so you know what's in it.

    The CBO projects this will happen because the AHCA would repeal Obamacare’s individual mandate, so some people might not sign up for their employer’s health plan, with no threat of being fined later. But also, the GOP bill might induce more employers to stop offering health insurance.

    That’s because the bill would also repeal the employer mandate, which requires businesses above a certain size to offer health coverage to their workers.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/how-the-gops-health-care-bill-would-affect-people-insured-through-work/519420/
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.
    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.
    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Don't tell that to Salem. He just wants no regulations and doesn't care to know what it means.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited March 2017
    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.

    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.

    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    Why do you ignore the conflict between your "we don't need no regulations" to the removal of the employer mandate. Along with your "pull up your bootstraps" and get a job that offers medical insurance?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.

    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    You seem upset.

    BTW -is this a case when it's OK for the states to get their rights trampled by the feds? You know, like when it comes to weed?

    You dumbfucks don't know if you're punched or bored. You just know no matter what Trump does, you're going to polish his helmet.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.

    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    Why do you ignore the conflict between your "we don't need no regulations" to the removal of the employer mandate. Along with your "pull up your bootstraps" and get a job that offers medical insurance?
    I wasn't talking to you retard.

    And the market will correct itself should that boogie man of yours come down the pike. If a company isn't required to offer health ins to full time employees and pulls it... you can bet there will be a mass exodus from that company to other companies that do offer it. Competition is a great thing.

    Fortunately Obama didn't turn this country into your Socialist paradise, so if companies that are currently mandated to cover their employees stopped doing so, their employees still have a choice and opportunity to go somewhere else that offered a better benefit package. It would be a stupid thing for a business to do.


  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Yep.

    He's upset.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    dhdawg said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Dude61 said:

    So 14 million will not be forced by the government to buy something they don't want. This is great news.

    No! Great news! Your employer, the federal government (tyfys), won't force you to buy health insurance. Although, If you are in the private sector and don't have company provided health insurance, you will pay an insurer a premium plus a 30% penalty. So, if you are so stupid as to not buy health insurance, you can now pay the insurer instead of the IRS. And doogie will suck you off for the effort.
    If the young healthy people would have bought health insurance the last 3 years, you might have something to cry about.



    But they didn't and they still won't, so your precious mandate doesn't work.


    That and you sound poor as fuck.
    Again answer the question. How is the new plan going to fix that? When you take away credits based on income.
    Easy... Get a fucking job that offers healthcare insurance.

    That was one of the regulations you now want taken away. Which is it?
    Go play checkers elsewhere....

    But I'll make one more move. I know its' hard for you to wrap your fucking pea brain around, but there are 2 different concepts I'm talking about.

    The regulation part is allowing true competition amongst carriers all over the 50 states.

    And if you can't find affordable health insurance on your own and it's as big of a deal to you as it is Hondo.... Go find a job where your employer pays most of the health insurance.
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/300711-insurers-arent-interested-in-selling-obamacare-across-state-lines

    companies aren't interested in selling across state lines.
    it's a bullshit worthless talking point
    Fuck you libtards are myopic and basic. Of course some companies aren't interested in selling across state lines. However insurers in smaller states would be more than happy to see their target market expand exponentially overnight. And you can't fucking read to boot.

    From your own article:

    For the last 10 months, states have been legally allowed to let insurers sell plans outside their borders.
    Despite the idea’s enduring popularity, no states have signaled interest in the policy, insurance experts and regulators say.


    So it's not the companies holding shit back. It's the states.
    Why do you ignore the conflict between your "we don't need no regulations" to the removal of the employer mandate. Along with your "pull up your bootstraps" and get a job that offers medical insurance?
    I wasn't talking to you retard.

    And the market will correct itself should that boogie man of yours come down the pike. If a company isn't required to offer health ins to full time employees and pulls it... you can bet there will be a mass exodus from that company to other companies that do offer it. Competition is a great thing.

    Fortunately Obama didn't turn this country into your Socialist paradise, so if companies that are currently mandated to cover their employees stopped doing so, their employees still have a choice and opportunity to go somewhere else that offered a better benefit package. It would be a stupid thing for a business to do.


    Then why weren't those companies offering insurance prior to the mandate? You think they'll continue to offer it just because?

    Think things through man. Sometimes it's not all about "free market".