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Romar’s future still uncertain as UW administration evaluates hoops program
DerekJohnson
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The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
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The two of them need to get behind closed doors and stay in there till they work this thing out
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The irony to this is that ultimately I don't really care what they do. I lost interest in that program five years ago.
I'm only posting links and commenting because for some reason I run a Husky site. -
Six years with no Tourney and 13 straight losses to close out the season. Hire Roy and retain Sr already.
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The whole debate starts and ends with these 5 words:
Six years is six years
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Nance and Russo didn't get six years, did they? They got four or five. Romar recruited some prime Seattle-Tacoma talent along with a few others in the 2000s and got some success out of it. Now he's 2-16. Why is this a debate again?
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We? all feel that way.DerekJohnson said:The irony to this is that ultimately I don't really care what they do. I lost interest in that program five years ago.
I'm only posting links and commenting because for some reason I fagpost on a Husky site. -
Ummm BBC thick white girl... we know that story.... Romar extended 10 yearsdoogie said:The two of them need to get behind closed doors and stay in there till they work this thing out
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But do you have a box with a surprise inside ?DerekJohnson said:
I'm only posting links and commenting because for some reason I run a Husky site.
I love surprises - do you have a windowless van where we can guess what's in the box ? -
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question. -
LEAVEFraleyMcClatcher said:Six years with no Tourney and 13 straight losses to close out the season. Hire Roy and retain Sr already.
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How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question. -
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though. -
I would guess that she wants to fire him from a basketball standpoint. But the question is whether she has the strength to do the right thing and see it through. The longer she drags it out, the worse it gets. But if she retains him, she will probably win Pac-12 AD of the Year and the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question. -
Sincerely,dnc said:
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though.
December 2007 -
You're saying 2017-18 UW Men's Hoops will be perfect season special?? Fucking sign me up!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sincerely,dnc said:
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though.
December 2007 -
We just had @Owen13dnc said:
You're saying 2017-18 UW Men's Hoops will be perfect season special?? Fucking sign me up!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sincerely,dnc said:
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though.
December 2007 -
Maybe one and done works at Kentucky - it's been disastrous here, top draft picks have availed UW nothing
Didn't Butler get to the NCAA finals with a team that stayed together a few years ?
Villanova won with a team that's played together awhile...no top picks
If the object of college basketball is success on the college level, Romar has sucked for awhile
Not expecting Final Four appearances, but no this is ridiculous -
@owen18 is gonna make @owen13 his underaged bitch.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We just had @Owen13dnc said:
You're saying 2017-18 UW Men's Hoops will be perfect season special?? Fucking sign me up!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sincerely,dnc said:
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though.
December 2007
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One and dones haven't been the problem, it's the rest of the rosters around the one and dones that have been the issue. Put any of the one and dones with any of the Roy or IT teams, and those teams would have been phenomenal. But none of them played with Roy or IT.tenndawg said:Maybe one and done works at Kentucky - it's been disastrous here, top draft picks have availed UW nothing
Didn't Butler get to the NCAA finals with a team that stayed together a few years ?
Villanova won with a team that's played together awhile...no top picks
If the object of college basketball is success on the college level, Romar has sucked for awhile
Not expecting Final Four appearances, but no this is ridiculous
Hawes - played with the worst set of guards of the Romar era
Wroten (who I hated) - played with Darnell Gant as the best big on the team
Chriss, Murray - Malik Dime was the best upperclassmen on the team.
Fultz - see above
The issue isn't recruiting one and dones, it's been only having one or two of them surrounded by dreck. The timing of them has been awful. And yes, Porter isn't going to lift this team to any special heights either. -
And we hired internally with someone who was part of December 2007. Incredible.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sincerely,dnc said:
Too damn many.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
I associate Huskie atheletics much more with decisive stupidity than indecisiveness though.
December 2007 -
I doubt it has anything to do with the strength to do the right thing and see things through ...DerekJohnson said:
I would guess that she wants to fire him from a basketball standpoint. But the question is whether she has the strength to do the right thing and see it through. The longer she drags it out, the worse it gets. But if she retains him, she will probably win Pac-12 AD of the Year and the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
Cohen's I'm sure trying to balance the following:
1) On merit, Romar's fired ... 2-16 in conference with a Top 3 pick in the draft + 6 straight years missing the NCAAs
2) Current state of the budget ... the projected budget deficit is large (although I've heard it isn't going to be as bad this year as projected) ... the size of the deficits for the next 2 years are still a concern
3) The MPJ recruiting class ... given the interest in MPJ and the Hale team this past year, Cohen's likely looking at knowing that even if they suck next year (and they will) the gate receipts and interest around the program will still be high ... at minimum similar to what Fultz was this year ... IF MPJ isn't in the program and the program is gutted with Romar gone there's the potential for a gate nightmare (see #2 above)
4) Romar's buyout is $3M+ this year and drops by about $1M next year ... IF Cohen is ready to move on from Romar and just waiting for the right time she also has to consider how the buyout money can be best used by the Athletic Department ... does giving resources to the football program cover the basketball program? Does investment in Olympic Sports have any potential whether it be women's hoops (whether it is in retaining Neighbors or securing his replacement) or baseball.
5) Who is a likely replacement for Romar? What is the cost? How does that fit into the budget?
Anybody that thinks that in a vacuum that Cohen wouldn't have fired Romar yesterday is fooling themselves ... but there are SIGNIFICANT factors that she has to consider at all levels. It's not a given either way and far from an easy decision.
For as vocal as I've been about how much Romar sucks and on the merits he deserves to be fired, there's very real business reasons for Cohen to allow at least one more year play out.
What I don't think you'll ever see out of Cohen is an extension for Romar ... won't happen. -
DisagreeTequilla said:
I doubt it has anything to do with the strength to do the right thing and see things through ...DerekJohnson said:
I would guess that she wants to fire him from a basketball standpoint. But the question is whether she has the strength to do the right thing and see it through. The longer she drags it out, the worse it gets. But if she retains him, she will probably win Pac-12 AD of the Year and the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
Cohen's I'm sure trying to balance the following:
1) On merit, Romar's fired ... 2-16 in conference with a Top 3 pick in the draft + 6 straight years missing the NCAAs
2) Current state of the budget ... the projected budget deficit is large (although I've heard it isn't going to be as bad this year as projected) ... the size of the deficits for the next 2 years are still a concern
3) The MPJ recruiting class ... given the interest in MPJ and the Hale team this past year, Cohen's likely looking at knowing that even if they suck next year (and they will) the gate receipts and interest around the program will still be high ... at minimum similar to what Fultz was this year ... IF MPJ isn't in the program and the program is gutted with Romar gone there's the potential for a gate nightmare (see #2 above)
4) Romar's buyout is $3M+ this year and drops by about $1M next year ... IF Cohen is ready to move on from Romar and just waiting for the right time she also has to consider how the buyout money can be best used by the Athletic Department ... does giving resources to the football program cover the basketball program? Does investment in Olympic Sports have any potential whether it be women's hoops (whether it is in retaining Neighbors or securing his replacement) or baseball.
5) Who is a likely replacement for Romar? What is the cost? How does that fit into the budget?
Anybody that thinks that in a vacuum that Cohen wouldn't have fired Romar yesterday is fooling themselves ... but there are SIGNIFICANT factors that she has to consider at all levels. It's not a given either way and far from an easy decision.
For as vocal as I've been about how much Romar sucks and on the merits he deserves to be fired, there's very real business reasons for Cohen to allow at least one more year play out.
What I don't think you'll ever see out of Cohen is an extension for Romar ... won't happen. -
3) - that will last about 4 games until s giant sucking sound resonates from Hec Ed. Packing out Garfield High ain't the same as filling up a big boy arena night in and night out.
A non-starter. Maybe a three or four game bump in attendance and then it becomes quite obvious it is Fultz Part Deaux.
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Flagged for reading his bullshit.PurpleThrobber said:3) - that will last about 4 games until s giant sucking sound resonates from Hec Ed. Packing out Garfield High ain't the same as filling up a big boy arena night in and night out.
A non-starter. Maybe a three or four game bump in attendance and then it becomes quite obvious it is Fultz Part Deaux. -
My view from the cheap seats, because I like wasting money, was that all of the boosters that normally sit in row 1, okay by all I mean Ron Crockett continued to attend every game this year. I kind of figured if guys like him were not front and center at games then Romar was doomed. With him sitting there all season, I speculate there is still life to Romar at UW. As with anything I say this could be utter bull shit as well. I mean one year, granted when the team was good, it snowed and 300 people showed up to the game and Ron Crockett made it to Hec Ed.
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Actually I got the impression games were slightly better attended this year. I get the impression it was mostly to come and watch Fultz play than anything. But for such a bad team, I expected much smaller turnouts.PurpleThrobber said:3) - that will last about 4 games until s giant sucking sound resonates from Hec Ed. Packing out Garfield High ain't the same as filling up a big boy arena night in and night out.
A non-starter. Maybe a three or four game bump in attendance and then it becomes quite obvious it is Fultz Part Deaux. -
Attendance was up this year with Fultz ... they even sold out the UCLA game when anybody with a basketball pulse knew that UCLA was going to blow them out of the gymPurpleThrobber said:3) - that will last about 4 games until s giant sucking sound resonates from Hec Ed. Packing out Garfield High ain't the same as filling up a big boy arena night in and night out.
A non-starter. Maybe a three or four game bump in attendance and then it becomes quite obvious it is Fultz Part Deaux. -
They obviously thought Kelsey Plum was a dude and came to see him play.
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Does the disappointment surrounding UW's record outweigh the excitement and "attendance boost" possibility of Porter Jr? Are all followers of UW bsaketball loyal enough to where they're aware of the recruiting class or are they mostly casual to the point where it doesn't matter?
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InsightfulTierbsHsotBoobs said:
DisagreeTequilla said:
I doubt it has anything to do with the strength to do the right thing and see things through ...DerekJohnson said:
I would guess that she wants to fire him from a basketball standpoint. But the question is whether she has the strength to do the right thing and see it through. The longer she drags it out, the worse it gets. But if she retains him, she will probably win Pac-12 AD of the Year and the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
How many days have you been a fan of Huskie athletics?dnc said:
I doubt she's still evaluating like she can't make a decision. She's either a) trying to come up with the money to buy him out (which in that case she should have already found it) b) trying to convince someone important (president, boosters?) to get behind letting him go c) trying to lock in a replacement that Porter Jr will stay on bored for d) some combination of the above.DerekJohnson said:The fact that Jennifer Cohen is still evaluating and dragging this out is almost as alarming as the fact that she hasn't fired Romar already.
thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article137606358.html
There's just no way you've gotten to the end of a 2-16 season and not know what you want to do. She wants to fire him or else she would have stood by him by now. What's holding her up is the question.
Cohen's I'm sure trying to balance the following:
1) On merit, Romar's fired ... 2-16 in conference with a Top 3 pick in the draft + 6 straight years missing the NCAAs
2) Current state of the budget ... the projected budget deficit is large (although I've heard it isn't going to be as bad this year as projected) ... the size of the deficits for the next 2 years are still a concern
3) The MPJ recruiting class ... given the interest in MPJ and the Hale team this past year, Cohen's likely looking at knowing that even if they suck next year (and they will) the gate receipts and interest around the program will still be high ... at minimum similar to what Fultz was this year ... IF MPJ isn't in the program and the program is gutted with Romar gone there's the potential for a gate nightmare (see #2 above)
4) Romar's buyout is $3M+ this year and drops by about $1M next year ... IF Cohen is ready to move on from Romar and just waiting for the right time she also has to consider how the buyout money can be best used by the Athletic Department ... does giving resources to the football program cover the basketball program? Does investment in Olympic Sports have any potential whether it be women's hoops (whether it is in retaining Neighbors or securing his replacement) or baseball.
5) Who is a likely replacement for Romar? What is the cost? How does that fit into the budget?
Anybody that thinks that in a vacuum that Cohen wouldn't have fired Romar yesterday is fooling themselves ... but there are SIGNIFICANT factors that she has to consider at all levels. It's not a given either way and far from an easy decision.
For as vocal as I've been about how much Romar sucks and on the merits he deserves to be fired, there's very real business reasons for Cohen to allow at least one more year play out.
What I don't think you'll ever see out of Cohen is an extension for Romar ... won't happen.
