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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

    yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

    but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

    He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

    Even fox admits it.

    "By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

    It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

    While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.
    We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point
    This is incorrect and here is why; our Air Force and missile defense systems are extremely outdated.

    Do we need to spend that much every year? No. We do however need to get the F-22 and F-35 projects finished. The F-15/16/18 platforms are Cold War era fighters. The A-10 is post-Vietnam.

    We are unbeatable because of our air superiority. A lot of that has to do with the weapons systems, but the aircraft matters a great deal as well. A single F-22 can take out an average of seven F-15's in a dog fight scenario.

    The F-22 program was scrapped after about 1/3rd of the original order was built and about 1/10th of the F-35's from the original order number have been built.
    What recent war has warplanes mattered?
    All of them for the past 100 years?
    How many airplanes does ISIS engage us with? How many planes did Iraq or Afghanistan engage us with? I guess I should have been more clear. Why invest in old school war planes when we can use drones?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited February 2017
    After Obama depleted the military to the extent he did, Trump really has no choice but to rebuild/resupply the military.

    It sure is going to be generating a lot of healthcare, retirement plan funded jobs.

    Boeing says hi! Easy one for Patty Murray and Maria Cantrell to vote YES! for.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2017
    2001400ex said:

    I'm more interested to see government spending while sucking Trump's dick.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    After Obama depleted the military to the extent he did, Trump really has no choice but to rebuild/resupply the military.

    It sure is going to be generating a lot of healthcare, retirement plan funded jobs.

    Boeing says hi! Easy one for Patty Murray and Maria Cantrell to vote YES! for.

    It's Cant-well, and it means what it says. Cantrell was Alice in Chains's guitarist.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

    yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

    but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

    He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

    Even fox admits it.

    "By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

    It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

    While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.
    We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point
    This is incorrect and here is why; our Air Force and missile defense systems are extremely outdated.

    Do we need to spend that much every year? No. We do however need to get the F-22 and F-35 projects finished. The F-15/16/18 platforms are Cold War era fighters. The A-10 is post-Vietnam.

    We are unbeatable because of our air superiority. A lot of that has to do with the weapons systems, but the aircraft matters a great deal as well. A single F-22 can take out an average of seven F-15's in a dog fight scenario.

    The F-22 program was scrapped after about 1/3rd of the original order was built and about 1/10th of the F-35's from the original order number have been built.
    What recent war has warplanes mattered?
    All of them for the past 100 years?
    How many airplanes does ISIS engage us with? How many planes did Iraq or Afghanistan engage us with? I guess I should have been more clear. Why invest in old school war planes when we can use drones?
    This isn't a video game or Top Gun where aircraft dog fight. Air superiority/supremacy extends far beyond that narrow scope.

    For someone that likes to knock people for not doing research or knowing facts, you're woefully out of touch on this subject.
    Clearly. I still think drones are the wave of the future, not warplanes.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Drones are the current and fu5ure
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    doogie said:

    After Obama depleted the military to the extent he did, Trump really has no choice but to rebuild/resupply the military.

    It sure is going to be generating a lot of healthcare, retirement plan funded jobs.

    Boeing says hi! Easy one for Patty Murray and Maria Cantrell to vote YES! for.

    Lol, $600B in spending, military is so depleted.

    Boeing actually produces something btw. Military is 95% paper pushers and glorified janitors.