priorities

dhdawg

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

2001400ex

I'm more interested to see the crowd on here that whines about government spending ignoring this while sucking Trump's dick.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

I'm more interested to see the crowd on here that whines about government spending ignoring this while sucking Trump's dick.

Really? I thought you would be more interested in caring about the deficit again after taking 8 years off

dhdawg

2001400ex said:

I'm more interested to see the crowd on here that whines about government spending ignoring this while sucking Trump's dick.

if we're spending to make sure poor people can eat that's terrible.

but if our money is going towards bombing brown people that's okay

2001400ex

RaceBannon said:

2001400ex said:

I'm more interested to see the crowd on here that whines about government spending ignoring this while sucking Trump's dick.

Really? I thought you would be more interested in caring about the deficit again after taking 8 years off

Do you even pay attention. Of course I cared about the deficit under Obama. He did a shitty job the last few years getting it under control in setting the budget. And Republicans, who controlled Congress, did nothing about the deficit either.

BennyBeaver

dhdawg said:

2001400ex said:

I'm more interested to see the crowd on here that whines about government spending ignoring this while sucking Trump's dick.

if we're spending to make sure poor people can eat that's terrible.

but if our money is going towards bombing brown people that's okay

The Law and Order President.

More weapons, cops, arrests, privatized prisons, death. Less help for the poor people in this country that need: jobs, healthcare, education.

Bigger military and DHS (CBP) should mean more jerbs, but I don't think there's enough qualified candidates.

Need some serious infrastructure maintenance up in this bitch. ROADS! BRIDGES! MAKE AMERICA'S FREEWAYS GREAT AGAIN!!!!!1!!!!1!!!!!!!1!

He's gonna cut foreign aid too. I'm ok with cuts there, but should be plowed back into social services. Help AMERICANS first.

The tax cuts? Where? Whom? Likely it's tax cuts for the rich and corps. Yay! More trickle down economics.

dhdawg

Trump also said on Monday he would talk about his plans for infrastructure spending in a speech to Congress on Tuesday. "We're going to start spending on infrastructure big," he said

This is from reuters.

where is this money coming from?

Southerndawg

dhdawg said:Trump also said on Monday he would talk about his plans for infrastructure spending in a speech to Congress on Tuesday. "We're going to start spending on infrastructure big," he said

This is from reuters.

where is this money coming from?

Your car tabs

RaceBannon

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

dhdawg

RaceBannon said:

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

just because they were campaign promises doesn't mean they were feasible.

Tax Cuts, increases in military, infrastructure, no cuts to entitlements. I'm not one to fear monger about debt but we may actually go belly up if that agenda goes through

RaceBannon

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

just because they were campaign promises doesn't mean they were feasible.

Tax Cuts, increases in military, infrastructure, no cuts to entitlements. I'm not one to fear monger about debt but we may actually go belly up if that agenda goes through

Says the party out of power every time. It may be true but I've heard this since forever.

Trump is giving everyone want they want with no pain. That's our politics today.

Cut one penny of an entitlement and watch what happens

AtomicPiss

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

just because they were campaign promises doesn't mean they were feasible.

Tax Cuts, increases in military, infrastructure, no cuts to entitlements. I'm not one to fear monger about debt but we may actually go belly up if that agenda goes through

Says the party out of power every time. It may be true but I've heard this since forever.

Trump is giving everyone want they want with no pain. That's our politics today.

Cut one penny of an entitlement and watch what happens

dhdawg

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

just because they were campaign promises doesn't mean they were feasible.

Tax Cuts, increases in military, infrastructure, no cuts to entitlements. I'm not one to fear monger about debt but we may actually go belly up if that agenda goes through

Says the party out of power every time. It may be true but I've heard this since forever.

Trump is giving everyone want they want with no pain. That's our politics today.

Cut one penny of an entitlement and watch what happens

we'll see what happens. this is another good piece on it by the failing NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/us/politics/trump-budget-proposal-republican-ideology.html

2001400ex

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Trump should have told us he wanted to build up the military and spend a bunch on infrastructure.

just because they were campaign promises doesn't mean they were feasible.

Tax Cuts, increases in military, infrastructure, no cuts to entitlements. I'm not one to fear monger about debt but we may actually go belly up if that agenda goes through

Says the party out of power every time. It may be true but I've heard this since forever.

Trump is giving everyone want they want with no pain. That's our politics today.

Cut one penny of an entitlement and watch what happens

we'll see what happens. this is another good piece on it by the failing NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/us/politics/trump-budget-proposal-republican-ideology.html

It's almost as if no politician actually wants to cut spending and reduce the deficit.

Hippopeteamus

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

dhdawg

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point

2001400ex

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

Why do you put Medicare and SS in entitlements? No politician that wants to get reelected is putting meaningful cuts there. Let's look at the percent that little bitch about, like food stamps. Those aren't even 1%.

Mosster47

dhdawg said:

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point

This is incorrect and here is why; our Air Force and missile defense systems are extremely outdated.

Do we need to spend that much every year? No. We do however need to get the F-22 and F-35 projects finished. The F-15/16/18 platforms are Cold War era fighters. The A-10 is post-Vietnam.

We are unbeatable because of our air superiority. A lot of that has to do with the weapons systems, but the aircraft matters a great deal as well. A single F-22 can take out an average of seven F-15's in a dog fight scenario.

The F-22 program was scrapped after about 1/3rd of the original order was built and about 1/10th of the F-35's from the original order number have been built.

2001400ex

Mosster47 said:

dhdawg said:

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point

This is incorrect and here is why; our Air Force and missile defense systems are extremely outdated.

Do we need to spend that much every year? No. We do however need to get the F-22 and F-35 projects finished. The F-15/16/18 platforms are Cold War era fighters. The A-10 is post-Vietnam.

We are unbeatable because of our air superiority. A lot of that has to do with the weapons systems, but the aircraft matters a great deal as well. A single F-22 can take out an average of seven F-15's in a dog fight scenario.

The F-22 program was scrapped after about 1/3rd of the original order was built and about 1/10th of the F-35's from the original order number have been built.

What recent war has warplanes mattered?

Hippopeteamus

dhdawg said:

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point

That may be the case. But using raw totals makes it seems like the US spends a disproportionate percent of its economy on the military compared to other countries, which is not entirely accurate. A large percentage of the budget is basically spent on maintaining the armed forces. 25% of the budget is spent on personnel and 42% is spent on maintenance and operations.
Now maybe we don't need as big of a military but I wonder if that would not create an opportunity for other nations to act more aggressively. And while it is true that you don't really need an F-22 to bomb ISIS, having quality conventional equipment might be important to deterring future nation state aggressors who have quality Russian and Chinese equipment.

ThomasFremont

2001400ex said:

Mosster47 said:

dhdawg said:

Hippopeteamus said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/trump-seeking-54b-increase-in-defense-spending-cuts-elsewhere.html

yes. because the country that spends more on the military than the next 7 countries combined needs more military spending.

but how dare anyone say we can afford universal healthcare.

He also says he wants to leave entitlements alone and cut taxes. Which will balloon the deficit.

Even fox admits it.

"By increasing defense and leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched, the Trump final budget plan is sure to project sizable deficits."

It'll be interesting to see how this goes over with the freedom caucus

While yes spending more on the military without cuts or raising taxes would increase the deficit and that might not be a smart idea, I always hate when people use total dollars spent for their comparison instead of GDP. This isn't to say we don't spend a lot, but with respect to the GDP we don't spend that much. Entitlements are about 14% of the GDP while defense is 3.5%.

We don't need to spend 3.5% is the point

This is incorrect and here is why; our Air Force and missile defense systems are extremely outdated.

Do we need to spend that much every year? No. We do however need to get the F-22 and F-35 projects finished. The F-15/16/18 platforms are Cold War era fighters. The A-10 is post-Vietnam.

We are unbeatable because of our air superiority. A lot of that has to do with the weapons systems, but the aircraft matters a great deal as well. A single F-22 can take out an average of seven F-15's in a dog fight scenario.

The F-22 program was scrapped after about 1/3rd of the original order was built and about 1/10th of the F-35's from the original order number have been built.

What recent war has warplanes mattered?

All of them for the past 100 years?