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Swaye
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Hot WR hips talk got me to wondering how big this class will be in general, and some way tooooooo early projections on numbers. Care to take a stab at a basic look into numbers and slots for this class? I thought I recall someone saying this class might be 20+, and if so, would we not go for 3 WRs if 3 top end guys wanted to come?

I am really hoping for at least 3 OL, and at least 3 DT/DE, but other than that I have no fucking idea what we want or need. I would go talk to @SpiritHorse but I am all out of peyote and trying to vision quest by huffing paint usually makes me wind up in the hospital where I see Retard Spirit Llama instead of the Horse of Power.

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,749 Founders Club
    Nurple said:

    Doesn't the retard spirit Llama work for the USC strength and conditioning program?

    Looks related to @DrunkNansen to me.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,277
    And I thought we were friends @Swaye
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    They do the balance of film stalking and examining hips ... I try to wait until they are almost street legal ...

    I do pay attention roughly to the numbers and what we could be looking at from a roster standpoint at the high end level ... somebody has to keep the stalkers focused.

    So what are we looking at numbers wise? I know they're dating 2 wides and 2 tes, plus presumably one Qb. What else?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,749 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    So this is a rough look at what I see from a roster standpoint (see attached GIF). Obviously we're a little over right now in this view as I've got us at 86 scholarships but as @Dennis_DeYoung has said elsewhere there is talk of up to 3 players that are likely leaving for one reason or another (Constantine, Lewis, Kirkland) so we shouldn't have any problem being at or under 85 when we need to be.

    The highlighted/shaded players are the players that either are going to see their eligibility exhausted or players that I think could end up leaving early. For 2017, the players that I could see leaving early are Myles Gaskin, Trey Adams and/or Kaleb McGary, Greg Gaines and Vita Vea. Barring any early entries we have 15 seniors on the roster that could be leaving (2 of which are Constantine and Kirkland). Doing the math should put us with a class of about 18 players again ... which seems like the sweet point for us as it is the size of this year's class.

    The roster composition may see some changes as players see position switches, etc. (i.e. Austin Joyner being moved from CB to S). But as you start looking out to our 2018 depth chart, the S depth could be very thin ... so I think that this could be a primary focus for us in this year's class.

    If I was projecting out this year's class, I would say it will look as follows:

    QB (1) - Jake Sirmon
    RB (1 or 2)
    WR (2 or 3) - Austin Osbourne
    TE (1 or 2)
    OL (3 or 4) - guaranteed to lose 2 OL, possible to lose 2 early
    DL (2) - likely to lose 2 DL
    LB (3 total) - losing 4 including Constantine - already have Jack Sirmon
    CB (2 total) - possible we only go after 1 but I would recruit hard here for 1) Jimmy Lake eventually leaving, 2) we have a lot of young talent coming through that could see a lot of early entries in the future leaving us thin
    S (2 total) - as mentioned, our depth will get thin here after 2018 as we lose 2 after this year and 2 more in 2018 assuming Rapp leaves after his junior year

    The low end of everything gets you to 17 total.

    Fucking awesome shit. Bravo Zulu.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    They do the balance of film stalking and examining hips ... I try to wait until they are almost street legal ...

    I do pay attention roughly to the numbers and what we could be looking at from a roster standpoint at the high end level ... somebody has to keep the stalkers focused.

    So what are we looking at numbers wise? I know they're dating 2 wides and 2 tes, plus presumably one Qb. What else?
    Fuck fat fingers on mobile phones. That should be "saying" 2 wides and 2 tes. Though this way is probably better lol.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited February 2017
    Tequilla said:

    So this is a rough look at what I see from a roster standpoint (see attached GIF). Obviously we're a little over right now in this view as I've got us at 86 scholarships but as @Dennis_DeYoung has said elsewhere there is talk of up to 3 players that are likely leaving for one reason or another (Constantine, Lewis, Kirkland) so we shouldn't have any problem being at or under 85 when we need to be.

    The highlighted/shaded players are the players that either are going to see their eligibility exhausted or players that I think could end up leaving early. For 2017, the players that I could see leaving early are Myles Gaskin, Trey Adams and/or Kaleb McGary, Greg Gaines and Vita Vea. Barring any early entries we have 15 seniors on the roster that could be leaving (2 of which are Constantine and Kirkland). Doing the math should put us with a class of about 18 players again ... which seems like the sweet point for us as it is the size of this year's class.

    The roster composition may see some changes as players see position switches, etc. (i.e. Austin Joyner being moved from CB to S). But as you start looking out to our 2018 depth chart, the S depth could be very thin ... so I think that this could be a primary focus for us in this year's class.

    If I was projecting out this year's class, I would say it will look as follows:

    QB (1) - Jake Sirmon
    RB (1 or 2)
    WR (2 or 3) - Austin Osbourne
    TE (1 or 2)
    OL (3 or 4) - guaranteed to lose 2 OL, possible to lose 2 early
    DL (2) - likely to lose 2 DL
    LB (3 total) - losing 4 including Constantine - already have Jack Sirmon
    CB (2 total) - possible we only go after 1 but I would recruit hard here for 1) Jimmy Lake eventually leaving, 2) we have a lot of young talent coming through that could see a lot of early entries in the future leaving us thin
    S (2 total) - as mentioned, our depth will get thin here after 2018 as we lose 2 after this year and 2 more in 2018 assuming Rapp leaves after his junior year

    The low end of everything gets you to 17 total.

    Good chit teqqyboat. My thoughts:

    QB - 1 and only 1
    RB - 1 and only 1 (Harrison)
    WR - 2 most likely, 3 if they only take one 1 TE
    TE - 2 most likely, 1 if they take 3 WR
    (So 4 WR/TE combined)
    OL - 3 (Hard to imagine McGary leaving)
    DL - 2
    LB - 3
    CB - 2 - excellent point about stocking up for an eventual lose of Lake. Same argument maybe applies to taking an extra WR? Though obviosly I hope Bush becomes OC, hard to hope the same for Lake since Kwat is so good at his jerb.
    S - 2

    That puts us at 18. I could see a little more attrition that usual this year possibly, especially as the Bush WR's lap some of the Pease guys, so 3 WR/2 TE in a 19 man class is an outside possibility.