It's unfair to let Jake Browning's late season production define him (subscription)
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I hope he improves his strength which hopefully fixes his hitch/timing.Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great! -
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Agreed. Lock him in the weight room, get his arm stronger. If only Ivan was here to get a hold of him...Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great! -
You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!
improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?
Nice troll job. You got me.
Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.
Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL?
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Stanford was a massively huge game at the time and Jake was absolutely spectacular.
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Weight training in regards to better leg and core strength helps. But traditional upper body strength training sacrifices flexibility which is a huge component in generating velocity and distance.jecornel said:
You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!
improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?
Nice troll job. You got me.
Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.
Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL? -
Arm strength can improve. He won't turn into Colin Kaepernick all of a sudden but it is possible.
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Bunch of football arm scientists in here.
Newsflash!! REAL football is played with feet!!! You play armball! -
Just a fucking whiney excuse for all the fucking weenie CUOG qbs.salemcoog said:
Weight training in regards to better leg and core strength helps. But traditional upper body strength training sacrifices flexibility which is a huge component in generating velocity and distance.jecornel said:
You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!
improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?
Nice troll job. You got me.
Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.
Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL?
They ALL end up like Falk - hurt and refusing to play in the meaningful games.
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Muscle strength (and more importantly a particular kind of balance between strength in muscles used in the throwing motion) has a marginal effect on throwing velocity, but the main determinant is specific types of flexibility in ligaments; and that flexibility is unaffected by training.jecornel said:
You can't improve arm strength with weight training? What?Dennis_DeYoung said:Jake sucked in big games. The problem is modern life has made humans so devoid of mental capacity that we cannot hold two ideas in our heads at one time:
1) Jake is pre-snap Jesus.
2) Jake chokes in any pressure situation.
We don't have to let anything define anything. Both those things are true.
Next year maybe he stops choking and maybe he doesn't, but being pre-snap Jesus is unlikely to go away.
His arm won't get any stronger (for those of you new here 'strength' in arms is a metaphor - you can't lift weights to improve it, it has to do with flexibility in ligaments) and he's not going to get any bigger.
So, he is what he is. Hopefully our team is just so good we never get in a close game and Jake will do great!
improving hand strength and forearm strength doesn't improve your ability to throw a football?
Nice troll job. You got me.
Clearly, you would make a terrible trainer.
Essentially you are saying Elway could throw the ball same in high school as he did in the NFL?
While there is evidence for this, it also stands to reason - if everyone could just weight-lift their way to a stronger arm, then every fucking pitcher would be throwing 100mph and every QB would have an arm like Joe Flacco.
