"Looking the part"
Avg. Height
2016: 6'0.88"
2017: 6'2.5"
Avg. Weight
2016: 208.22
2017: 225
Now obviously some slight differences in the positions we took impacted the results (1 more OL and 1 more WR in '17, 1 more RB and 1 more DB in '16), but in general the positional distribution was pretty even.
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You're still not getting USC, OSU and
Bama level athletes on both lines.
Until that happens, conference championships
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No shit. But the point is that it's a step in the right direction.whuggy said:You're still not getting USC, OSU and
Bama level athletes on both lines.
Until that happens, conference championships
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And then you have guys like Bryant, Bain & Ahmed who look 32. In a good way.
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Yeah but that step is huge. Sarell, Tui.,NEsnake12 said:
No shit. But the point is that it's a step in the right direction.whuggy said:You're still not getting USC, OSU and
Bama level athletes on both lines.
Until that happens, conference championships
are the ceiling.
Tufele, Tucker, Wyatt Davis are a big step
up from what we ended up with. I'm not
downgrading who we got on the lines.
They're all nice players. Just not "big boy"
good. -
Screw everyone this thread is bonerfied
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Now we just need a few DL and OL who look 32 in a good way.GrundleStiltzkin said:And then you have guys like Bryant, Bain & Ahmed who look 32. In a good way.
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DawgFader said:
Now we just need a few DL and OL who look 32 in a good way.GrundleStiltzkin said:And then you have guys like Bryant, Bain & Ahmed who look 32. In a good way.
DawgFader said:
Now we just need a few DL and OL who look 32 in a good way.GrundleStiltzkin said:And then you have guys like Bryant, Bain & Ahmed who look 32. In a good way.
Does that mean young looking enough to score minors?DawgFader said:
Now we just need a few DL and OL who look 32 in a good way.GrundleStiltzkin said:And then you have guys like Bryant, Bain & Ahmed who look 32. In a good way.
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So I'm confused. Do we or don't we look like Ohio State Groz?
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The nice thing is on our lines, the back up guys we signed, have high ceilings. They aren't the high probability of success guys we want but at least if things go the right way they could be about as good. Obviously I don't want guys who have a lower chance of being successful but this is a big move forward from the backups where they aren't pre-destined to be nothing more than lumbering lumps of gelatin.
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I wholeheartedly support what @NEsnake12 is trying to say.
We got a bunch of guys who have rare size/movement combos:
Salvon is big for how fast he is.
All three of our receivers have great size.
Hunter and White TE are both huge.
All 3 of our OL are big guys who move well.
Ali Gaye is the definition of a rare human.
Tryon is ridiculous: 6-5, 240 and fast.
Ngata is big, fast and has a big frame.
Keith Taylor is fucking 6-3 and McKinney is a big 'un as well.
Only Haener, Molden and Lolohea are guys that aren't especially big for their positions.
In the last couple years we've had to take kids that were not like that and there have been some reprecussions.
If I could have done literally anything with this class I would have simply added AVT or Fozzy and retained Marlon (and dropped Haener).
This class was outstanding and 2-3 players away from being elite. -
We? could have really used a future top 5 pick like James Atoe. Or steal a guy away from Oregon the caliber of Jared Hilbers. Quite honestly.Mad_Son said:The nice thing is on our lines, the back up guys we signed, have high ceilings. They aren't the high probability of success guys we want but at least if things go the right way they could be about as good. Obviously I don't want guys who have a lower chance of being successful but this is a big move forward from the backups where they aren't pre-destined to be nothing more than lumbering lumps of gelatin.
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You're still not getting USC, OSU and
Bama level athletes on both lines.
Until that happens, conference championships
are the ceiling.
Captain obvious. Thanks for the insight. -
This class is close and it's always gonna be stiff competition for the big guys.Dennis_DeYoung said:I wholeheartedly support what @NEsnake12 is trying to say.
We got a bunch of guys who have rare size/movement combos:
Salvon is big for how fast he is.
All three of our receivers have great size.
Hunter and White TE are both huge.
All 3 of our OL are big guys who move well.
Ali Gaye is the definition of a rare human.
Tryon is ridiculous: 6-5, 240 and fast.
Ngata is big, fast and has a big frame.
Keith Taylor is fucking 6-3 and McKinney is a big 'un as well.
Only Haener, Molden and Lolohea are guys that aren't especially big for their positions.
In the last couple years we've had to take kids that were not like that and there have been some reprecussions.
If I could have done literally anything with this class I would have simply added AVT or Fozzy and retained Marlon (and dropped Haener).
This class was outstanding and 2-3 players away from being elite.
The only misses IMO were in adding one more talented guy to Bain on the OL, Marlon's last second flip (painful) and a DE that could challenge for a spot in the rotation. We had a bunch of these types of guys interested early just need to keep them on the hook next year.
Hopefully Heaner can grow a solid beard and let his hair flow so he can fullfill his destiny as the Dawgs clipboard Jesus.
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Yeah, the only big misses were really Fozzy or AVT, Marlon and - I would have added a QB and IPM.DawgFader said:
This class is close and it's always gonna be stiff competition for the big guys.Dennis_DeYoung said:I wholeheartedly support what @NEsnake12 is trying to say.
We got a bunch of guys who have rare size/movement combos:
Salvon is big for how fast he is.
All three of our receivers have great size.
Hunter and White TE are both huge.
All 3 of our OL are big guys who move well.
Ali Gaye is the definition of a rare human.
Tryon is ridiculous: 6-5, 240 and fast.
Ngata is big, fast and has a big frame.
Keith Taylor is fucking 6-3 and McKinney is a big 'un as well.
Only Haener, Molden and Lolohea are guys that aren't especially big for their positions.
In the last couple years we've had to take kids that were not like that and there have been some reprecussions.
If I could have done literally anything with this class I would have simply added AVT or Fozzy and retained Marlon (and dropped Haener).
This class was outstanding and 2-3 players away from being elite.
The only misses IMO were in adding one more talented guy to Bain on the OL, Marlon's last second flip (painful) and a DE that could challenge for a spot in the rotation. We had a bunch of these types of guys interested early just need to keep them on the hook next year.
Hopefully Heaner can grow a solid beard and let his hair flow so he can fullfill his destiny as the Dawgs clipboard Jesus.
I love DJ, but you aren't going to get a fucking all star team. Tryon is plenty good enough.
And fuck saying we are going to get kids to come in and compete next year on the lines. Only kids who are superstars should see the field in the first year, and those kids should be far away from the ball (WR, DB). -
Fucking A. Remember when we'd bring in Talia fucking Crichton and rely on him to start day 1? And he sucked? But was probably better game 1 than on senior day?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, the only big misses were really Fozzy or AVT, Marlon and - I would have added a QB and IPM.DawgFader said:
This class is close and it's always gonna be stiff competition for the big guys.Dennis_DeYoung said:I wholeheartedly support what @NEsnake12 is trying to say.
We got a bunch of guys who have rare size/movement combos:
Salvon is big for how fast he is.
All three of our receivers have great size.
Hunter and White TE are both huge.
All 3 of our OL are big guys who move well.
Ali Gaye is the definition of a rare human.
Tryon is ridiculous: 6-5, 240 and fast.
Ngata is big, fast and has a big frame.
Keith Taylor is fucking 6-3 and McKinney is a big 'un as well.
Only Haener, Molden and Lolohea are guys that aren't especially big for their positions.
In the last couple years we've had to take kids that were not like that and there have been some reprecussions.
If I could have done literally anything with this class I would have simply added AVT or Fozzy and retained Marlon (and dropped Haener).
This class was outstanding and 2-3 players away from being elite.
The only misses IMO were in adding one more talented guy to Bain on the OL, Marlon's last second flip (painful) and a DE that could challenge for a spot in the rotation. We had a bunch of these types of guys interested early just need to keep them on the hook next year.
Hopefully Heaner can grow a solid beard and let his hair flow so he can fullfill his destiny as the Dawgs clipboard Jesus.
I love DJ, but you aren't going to get a fucking all star team. Tryon is plenty good enough.
And fuck saying we are going to get kids to come in and compete next year on the lines. Only kids who are superstars should see the field in the first year, and those kids should be far away from the ball (WR, DB).
Or when we? were forced to doog hard over Potatoe's older brother hoping he'd start as a 240lb Dtackle? And Nick Holt claimed he'd go pro after 3 years "if we? don't mess him up?"
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Captain obvious. Thanks for the insight.jecornel said:You're still not getting USC, OSU and
Bama level athletes on both lines.
Until that happens, conference championships
are the ceiling.
I'm honestly more concerned about Browning this upcoming season than the OL and DL playing at a championship level.
Browning's limitations show up against the big boys and the pants shitting in close games. It's true until proven otherwise. -
I say it every offseason: playing kids as true frosh is almost always a mistake.
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If he is your best option, you have to play him.TTJ said:I say it every offseason: playing kids as true frosh is almost always a mistake.
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Fixed.WeakarmCobra said:
If he is your best option, youTTJ said:I say it every offseason: playing kids as true frosh is almost always a mistake.
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Regardless, that's a lot more meat for DDY to salivate over next year.NEsnake12 said:We all talked about how we need bigger/faster/stronger "rare human" athletes if we're going to compete on the national scale against teams like Bama. So here's a quick little comparison between the 2016 and 2017 classes, stats taken from the official UW press releases not the TBS sites where they overestimate height:
Avg. Height
2016: 6'0.88"
2017: 6'2.5"
Avg. Weight
2016: 208.22
2017: 225
Now obviously some slight differences in the positions we took impacted the results (1 more OL and 1 more WR in '17, 1 more RB and 1 more DB in '16), but in general the positional distribution was pretty even. -
T H I S .Dennis_DeYoung said:
Fixed.WeakarmCobra said:
If he is your best option, youTTJ said:I say it every offseason: playing kids as true frosh is almost always a mistake.
have to play himare most likely completely mismanaging your program. -
Looking for QB recruiting to evolve. Glad SC is trying to snatch kids that are buying what Petersen is selling, means the program is a destination in the recruiting game and we are in on top flight talent.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, the only big misses were really Fozzy or AVT, Marlon and - I would have added a QB and IPM.DawgFader said:
This class is close and it's always gonna be stiff competition for the big guys.Dennis_DeYoung said:I wholeheartedly support what @NEsnake12 is trying to say.
We got a bunch of guys who have rare size/movement combos:
Salvon is big for how fast he is.
All three of our receivers have great size.
Hunter and White TE are both huge.
All 3 of our OL are big guys who move well.
Ali Gaye is the definition of a rare human.
Tryon is ridiculous: 6-5, 240 and fast.
Ngata is big, fast and has a big frame.
Keith Taylor is fucking 6-3 and McKinney is a big 'un as well.
Only Haener, Molden and Lolohea are guys that aren't especially big for their positions.
In the last couple years we've had to take kids that were not like that and there have been some reprecussions.
If I could have done literally anything with this class I would have simply added AVT or Fozzy and retained Marlon (and dropped Haener).
This class was outstanding and 2-3 players away from being elite.
The only misses IMO were in adding one more talented guy to Bain on the OL, Marlon's last second flip (painful) and a DE that could challenge for a spot in the rotation. We had a bunch of these types of guys interested early just need to keep them on the hook next year.
Hopefully Heaner can grow a solid beard and let his hair flow so he can fullfill his destiny as the Dawgs clipboard Jesus.
I love DJ, but you aren't going to get a fucking all star team. Tryon is plenty good enough.
And fuck saying we are going to get kids to come in and compete next year on the lines. Only kids who are superstars should see the field in the first year, and those kids should be far away from the ball (WR, DB).
I like Tyron a lot, he should be a great add to the rotation in 18 months. I'm not advocating for 18 year olds to have to play on the lines at all.
Just saying there were a number of kids that would have protected the rush from being in a rush and against injury.
Come next cycle and moving forward I would hope that the class can land in the top 15 consistently with the small classes and contend with larger classes for the top 10.
Marlon, AVT, IPM, DJ, Echols (and QB... etc.) any two of these guys takes the class to elite. We were one of them away from with a week to go.
Wouldn't that have been an all star class for lack of a better term? I'm pumped with the class but trying to keep some prespective on where the potential ceiling might be. -
I would look strongly at where we recruited in this class ... of the 18 guys in the class they came from as follows:
California: 7
Washington: 6
Oregon: 2
Utah: 2
Australia: 1
This is what our recruiting class should look like from a composition standpoint. You could turn Utah into "Other" to account for an Idaho/Wyoming/Montana, etc. type of kid. It would be nice to get back into Hawaii particularly for OL/DL types.
It's possible over time that we might get back into Texas or even start getting a guy here or there from a national standpoint that wants to play at UW. But in-state Washington normally produces in the 8-10 range of solid D1 prospects per year ... we normally get what we want. We have good depth in NoCal (Sacramento) and in some of the SoCal schools in the southern region (Orange County).
QB recruiting will improve when we get rid of Babushka -
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Thank you for your endorsement, Tequila. Coker? Do I have two of TSIO's three on board?Tequilla said:I would look strongly at where we recruited in this class ... of the 18 guys in the class they came from as follows:
California: 7
Washington: 6
Oregon: 2
Utah: 2
Australia: 1
This is what our recruiting class should look like from a composition standpoint. You could turn Utah into "Other" to account for an Idaho/Wyoming/Montana, etc. type of kid. It would be nice to get back into Hawaii particularly for OL/DL types.
It's possible over time that we might get back into Texas or even start getting a guy here or there from a national standpoint that wants to play at UW. But in-state Washington normally produces in the 8-10 range of solid D1 prospects per year ... we normally get what we want. We have good depth in NoCal (Sacramento) and in some of the SoCal schools in the southern region (Orange County).
QB recruiting will improve when we get rid of Babushka
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