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PurpleJ
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What are your plans if California secedes from the union?
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Notré Mexico needs carpet too.
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Won't happen. It's better to be inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in.
Newsom and Harris are a big part of the new generation of Democrats who will drag the rest of this backwards ignorant fucking country into the 21st century. Like always, Cali will lead the way. -
Does the leading start before or after you fix your budget and solve your housing crisis?
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It's not 2010 anymore. Budget is fine. Housing crisis? It's expensive in places, not so much in others. It's a function of local demand, and local govt. desire to build high-density housing in certain areas.PurpleJ said:Does the leading start before or after you fix your budget and solve your housing crisis?
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Budget is not fine. Check the facts.
As for housing, well agree to disagree I guess. Average joe can't afford much down there and subsidizing it for low income residents through state and local governments will be quite a burden if you secede. -
Average Joe can live in California just fine.PurpleJ said:Budget is not fine. Check the facts.
As for housing, well agree to disagree I guess. Average joe can't afford much down there and subsidizing it for low income residents through state and local governments will be quite a burden if you secede.
Temecula -
You misspelled "Watsonville." The judges also would have accepted "Prunedale." You want to live in a nice area, you have to pay. Shitty areas are affordable, as always. The whole fucking Central Valley is dirt cheap. SF, not so much. Zillow has my hovel undervalued at $930K, but I can hear the ocean from my bedroom and we walked the dogs on the beach this afternoon.
As for the budget, http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/11/17/66216/california-analyst-projects-2-8-billion-budget-sur/
Concerns, yes, but no worser than most other states, and better off than many. -
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SpoonieLuv said:
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California secession is fucktarded and will never happen. Regardless of budget or whatever, they are a net donator to the federal government. So they'll do just fine economically.
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I'd be more worried about local government than state government. These sanctuary cities are going to lose federal funding, and many will spend millions in a losing effort fighting it in court. Cities like San Francisco will turn into Biff's paradise.
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The federal funding is a low percentage of their budgets.greenblood said:I'd be more worried about local government than state government. These sanctuary cities are going to lose federal funding, and many will spend millions in a losing effort fighting it in court. Cities like San Francisco will turn into Biff's paradise.
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many of the major counties in the country are "sanctuary." as are a number of major states. thinking of defunding them is dreamland. it's like expecting mexico to pay for this stupid wallgreenblood said:I'd be more worried about local government than state government. These sanctuary cities are going to lose federal funding, and many will spend millions in a losing effort fighting it in court. Cities like San Francisco will turn into Biff's paradise.
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The PM was to California residents only. I suggest that the rest of you losers butt the fuck out.
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That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will. -
So when the United States of Trump masses troops on the border of the Republic of California, will it be the SF fags or the lesbians who answer the call of duty?
That undervalued beach house of yours will be a nice recon spot for the Marine landing too.
I'd be worried as fuck if Texas bailed. Those fucks are crazy and would look to expand their borders. And also undefeated in war.
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You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
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California is TUFFer than you thinkPurpleThrobber said:So when the United States of Trump masses troops on the border of the Republic of California, will it be the SF fags or the lesbians who answer the call of duty?
That undervalued beach house of yours will be a nice recon spot for the Marine landing too.
I'd be worried as fuck if Texas bailed. Those fucks are crazy and would look to expand their borders. And also undefeated in war.
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They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will. -
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
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He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will. -
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No he didn't. He denied the possibility of it happening and didn't answer the fucking question. Christ baabs. Can you even read?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
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they should all move to kansas. I hear the economy is booming in that conservative's wet dream
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Exactly.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
I said that it won't happen, not that it can't happen. It's all there in plain Engrish.PurpleJ said:
No he didn't. He denied the possibility of it happening and didn't answer the fucking question. Christ baabs. Can you even read?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will. -
If Cali secedes, OR and WA won't be far behind.
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That wasn't the question being asked.BearsWiin said:
Exactly.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
I said that it won't happen, not that it can't happen. It's all there in plain Engrish.PurpleJ said:
No he didn't. He denied the possibility of it happening and didn't answer the fucking question. Christ baabs. Can you even read?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
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When asked an extremely implausible hypothetical, I responded by saying it won't happen. Why do you have a problem with that? Texas blathered about seceding when Obama got elected. It was laughable then. Some cranks in Cali are pushing Calexit now. It's laughable now. Cali benefits more by remaining in the US and affecting US policy from within than it does by seceding and trying to affect US policy from without. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of all the shit that would have to be unraveled regarding finances, property, military facilities, commerce, etc., assuming it can be done amicably, which even the wurst divorce lawyer would cackle derisively at that prospect. Why secede anyway? Because Trump? He's not long for the office anyway.PurpleJ said:
That wasn't the question being asked.BearsWiin said:
Exactly.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
I said that it won't happen, not that it can't happen. It's all there in plain Engrish.PurpleJ said:
No he didn't. He denied the possibility of it happening and didn't answer the fucking question. Christ baabs. Can you even read?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
Secession won't happen. Not because it can't happen, but because it's a bad option, much worse than staying and dragging the rest of this fucking country kicking and screaming into the 21st century. -
TL, DR:BearsWiin said:
When asked an extremely implausible hypothetical, I responded by saying it won't happen. Why do you have a problem with that? Texas blathered about seceding when Obama got elected. It was laughable then. Some cranks in Cali are pushing Calexit now. It's laughable now. Cali benefits more by remaining in the US and affecting US policy from within than it does by seceding and trying to affect US policy from without. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of all the shit that would have to be unraveled regarding finances, property, military facilities, commerce, etc., assuming it can be done amicably, which even the wurst divorce lawyer would cackle derisively at that prospect. Why secede anyway? Because Trump? He's not long for the office anyway.PurpleJ said:
That wasn't the question being asked.BearsWiin said:
Exactly.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
I said that it won't happen, not that it can't happen. It's all there in plain Engrish.PurpleJ said:
No he didn't. He denied the possibility of it happening and didn't answer the fucking question. Christ baabs. Can you even read?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He answered your fucking questionPurpleJ said:
This thread isn't about betting against you. It's about what you are going to do if you secede. But troll on douchebag.BearsWiin said:
They were projecting a surplus as late as November, which is the last time I recalled seeing anything about it. As I said, I'm not worried about that small a deficit. Cali's economy is doing pretty well, and will continue to do so. Bet against us if you like.PurpleJ said:
You said surplus. You were wrong.BearsWiin said:
That's a pisspoor article if you want to make me worried about California's finances. Again, show me a state that doesn't have some fiscal issues. $1.6B short term deficit? Big fucking deal. That's loose change under Elon Musk's couch cushions.PurpleJ said:
Now, if you'd have made the argument that Cali's tax revenue structure is fucked because of Prop 13 and the resulting low corporate property taxes causing the state to rely on funding sources that fluctuate with and are overly dependent on the state economy, then I might argee. But even with that caveat, we'll be fine, thanks you. If the Great Recession didn't cripple us*, nothing will.
Secession won't happen. Not because it can't happen, but because it's a bad option, much worse than staying and dragging the rest of this fucking country kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
We don't deal in hypotheticals here
