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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,228 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    Who?

    Some kid excellent talent evaluator Adrian Klemm thought was worth a scholly
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    I haven't actually seen this kid's tape but I heard he really looked good this year. Absolutely destroyed Pili in their game. He has the Eric Kohler thing going on where you see a picture if him and think, "how could that kid be a good football player?"
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,381
    My guess is that Kirkland ends up at UW and Ford playing DL at Utah.

    Hope UW gets that DT from Hawaii who has also had a good senior year.

    Or, Fehoko from Texas Tech could RS and then be ready to play in 2018 after Vea and Gaines are gone. I don't see Gaines sticking around for his RS-SR year.

    Ricky McCoy will be a RS-Soph next year and Marlon T flipping has screwed up our NT / DT depth since there isn't anyone else on the roster capable of playing NT (walk-on John Clark is only 284 lbs and will be a RS-Soph next year).
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,381
    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    guntlove said:

    Last minute offers to plan D offensive line recruits is always special. Fucking Strausser couldn't sell nachos to Fetters.

    Our OL depth is a steaming pile of monkey shit, and we are one Adams or McGary injury away from being seriously fucked.

    If the staff really thought highly of this kid, who's an instate legacy recruit for fucks sake, they would've offered a very long time ago. This smacks of desperation, because we've swung and missed on just about everyone else.

    I look at our OL roster and there is so much useless dreck... Burleson, Hilbers, Center, Turner, James, Sosebbbeeee, Kirkland, Ossai. And to add supplement this group of fucksticks we've signed a total of four OL recruits over the last two years?

    You can't expect to compete for a playoff spot in the years ahead with this kind of shitty depth and lack of high-end talent... for what is arguably the most important position on the goddmaned team.

    OL recruiting has been less that stellar. I think we are 2/15 for OL recruiting.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
    Don't think the recruiting problem would be as bad if we didn't also have an OC with the personality of dried glue. You could probably get by with one or the other, but both are killing OL recruiting.
    As bad as OL recruiting is - and it's bad - QB recruiting is a lot worse. So I don't want to play namby pamby whack-a-mole on whose fault it is.

    If there were more in state kids, if UW had never hired Gilby... there are a lot of ifs. I know this: Strausser can't recruit his way out of a paper bag.

    I don't think Smith has any fucking thing to do with it as it didn't seem to slow Hamdan down much this year.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Disagree
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
    Don't think the recruiting problem would be as bad if we didn't also have an OC with the personality of dried glue. You could probably get by with one or the other, but both are killing OL recruiting.
    As bad as OL recruiting is - and it's bad - QB recruiting is a lot worse. So I don't want to play namby pamby whack-a-mole on whose fault it is.

    If there were more in state kids, if UW had never hired Gilby... there are a lot of ifs. I know this: Strausser can't recruit his way out of a paper bag.

    I don't think Smith has any fucking thing to do with it as it didn't seem to slow Hamdan down much this year.
    We should be very happy that Sirmon's as much of a UW lock as there can be ... otherwise we'd be literally fucked after Browning graduates.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
    Don't think the recruiting problem would be as bad if we didn't also have an OC with the personality of dried glue. You could probably get by with one or the other, but both are killing OL recruiting.
    As bad as OL recruiting is - and it's bad - QB recruiting is a lot worse. So I don't want to play namby pamby whack-a-mole on whose fault it is.

    If there were more in state kids, if UW had never hired Gilby... there are a lot of ifs. I know this: Strausser can't recruit his way out of a paper bag.

    I don't think Smith has any fucking thing to do with it as it didn't seem to slow Hamdan down much this year.
    We should be very happy that Sirmon's as much of a UW lock as there can be ... otherwise we'd be literally fucked after Browning graduates.
    He gone. USC is going to make his dad a fucking dean of something and take him too.
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
    Don't think the recruiting problem would be as bad if we didn't also have an OC with the personality of dried glue. You could probably get by with one or the other, but both are killing OL recruiting.
    As bad as OL recruiting is - and it's bad - QB recruiting is a lot worse. So I don't want to play namby pamby whack-a-mole on whose fault it is.

    If there were more in state kids, if UW had never hired Gilby... there are a lot of ifs. I know this: Strausser can't recruit his way out of a paper bag.

    I don't think Smith has any fucking thing to do with it as it didn't seem to slow Hamdan down much this year.
    We should be very happy that Sirmon's as much of a UW lock as there can be ... otherwise we'd be literally fucked after Browning graduates.
    QBs more than any other position seem to get slotted at school.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Does Kirkland have fluid hips? Does he prefer cleans over bicep curls?

    Has TSIO purchased the URL: firestrausser.org yet?

    Lastly, what are the market conditions for late surprises? And I mean good surprises.

    These are things I need to know pronto.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,381
    I didn't know Strausser was that out of favor. He has missed on a decent amount of guys but nabbed at least one 4 star guy in each of class (2014-2017).

    His biggest misses have been Sarrell and Thockmorton though Sarrell wanted to go to Stanford since 8th grade (when he wrote that love letter to them). Eletise hurt too, can't believe he hitched his wagon to Dick Rod's merry crew. Wonder if he would've beaten out Nick Harris to start at RG.

    I don't see Strausser going anywhere anytime soon so it will be interesting to see what happens with the big 2018 OL from Fife (UW hasn't offered him) and this Portland OL:

    https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/9778
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    TommySQC said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Actually Kirkland may be visiting UCLA this weekend so he might stick with UCLA.

    I don't see Kirkland being a miss because he committed to UCLA pretty darn early and to uber-recruiter Klemm (was he fired for shady recruiting or not being a good coach?).

    I'm not willing to say Strausser sucks or should be fired, at least yet. The OL has gotten better every year under him and Nick Harris starting at RG as a true frosh is more of an indictment of the previous staff's recruiting (Brostek and Andrew Kirkland weren't able to keep him on the bench redshirting).

    Is he an outstanding coach "on field"? Yes.

    Is he an atrociously bad recruiter? Yes.

    Okay, we all agree.

    Now the cost/benefit can be discussed.
    Don't think the recruiting problem would be as bad if we didn't also have an OC with the personality of dried glue. You could probably get by with one or the other, but both are killing OL recruiting.
    As bad as OL recruiting is - and it's bad - QB recruiting is a lot worse. So I don't want to play namby pamby whack-a-mole on whose fault it is.

    If there were more in state kids, if UW had never hired Gilby... there are a lot of ifs. I know this: Strausser can't recruit his way out of a paper bag.

    I don't think Smith has any fucking thing to do with it as it didn't seem to slow Hamdan down much this year.
    We should be very happy that Sirmon's as much of a UW lock as there can be ... otherwise we'd be literally fucked after Browning graduates.
    QBs more than any other position seem to get slotted at school.
    ¿Porque?
  • RomarFuckedJenC
    RomarFuckedJenC Member Posts: 117
    pat_hm said:

    Kirkland decommitted from UCLA per his Twitter. Looking good.

    Already rushed to tweet him how great udub is.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    pat_hm said:

    Kirkland decommitted from UCLA per his Twitter. Looking good.

    Already rushed to tweet him how great udub is.
    mods?