Another hit to our off-season Natty chances - Fox Sports Edition
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/gallery/2017-nfl-draft-mock-projections-early-entry-list-details-schools-impacted-011817
Granted, so many pieces like this from the national writers seems to be a worthless as tits on a boar, but how FS is this observation: “The difference between Washington and the other teams on the list is that the Huskies don’t have the overall depth to replace a mass exodus like this.”
Jones, Qualls, Baker, and Ross, are all huge losses; but our “overall depth” in three out of four of those spots is where we have been recruiting and developing players at a very high level- i.e., where you need to be to be competing for Natty’s as Tequilla puts it. Consensus here seems to be DL may actually be better in 2017 with more “heat from the edge”; Gaines is an all-conference level guy and Vea might be a potential all American. Might be some growing pains in the secondary to start, but there’s a ton of depth here- i.e., “DB University”. Has this guy not heard of Rapp? If our non-midget WR recruits all sign LOI’s (and TE’s) we probably get better at WR/TE overall, despite losing Ross. Do your homework Torres – our OL is where the quality depth is lacking compared to other programs; not these other position groups.
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I'm hearing Obama has a beard.
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Hillary?YellowSnow said:According to Fox Sports we are officially the #1 team in America at being hammered by early departures for the draft:
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/gallery/2017-nfl-draft-mock-projections-early-entry-list-details-schools-impacted-011817
Presidential Trivia: Who was our last President to sport some facial hair? Also, who was the last candidate of a major party to have some?
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Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
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I'm hearing that the Obama adminstration could stay in office if Trump and Pence were assassinated on inaguration day... https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/18/cnn-airs-segment-saying-obama-admin-keep-power-trump-pence-blown-inauguration-day/amp/ unlike Kim i provide sources.
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I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6GiantOnMontlake said:Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
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And they remember 12-2huskyfavre said:
I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6GiantOnMontlake said:Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
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Foxsports is wrong ESPN edition:
insider.espn.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post?id=78928
"Washington made a surprising run to the College Football Playoff last season and thanks to Chris Petersen’s efforts on the recruiting trail, the Huskies could be in line for a return trip in 2017.
While much was made of Washington’s schedule in 2016 -- it might be even easier in 2017 with USC not on it, allowing another run to the playoff – and the Huskies could actually be more talented this fall despite losing big-time stars in wide receiver John Ross, defensive backs Budda Baker and Sidney Jones and defensive tackle Elijah Qualls early to the NFL draft."
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I don't disagree that we need to get into that Top 10- 15 range on some recruiting classes to build "overall depth" and have a legit shot at a NT. Again, my contention with this writer is that the position groups where our overall depth is sub standard compared to the elite programs are not where we suffered all the early departure/graduations this year.
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Petersen runs trick plays all the time and that's how he won at Boise and now at UW.
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Disagree. I don't see why Petersen wouldn't be able to cash in on top 15/10 recruiting classes consistently if the program continues to win. Besides LA, Seattle (fuck off boobs) is probably the best market to be in on the west coast and there is plenty of talent on this side of the country to compete with everyone else.huskyfavre said:
I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6GiantOnMontlake said:Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
The key thing is to continue to win and the recruiting will sort itself out (thanks captain obvious). I see some top 10 classes in the future if it continues. Now consistent top 10/5 classes is different story and will need some nattys in order to do that.
