Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6
Disagree. I don't see why Petersen wouldn't be able to cash in on top 15/10 recruiting classes consistently if the program continues to win. Besides LA, Seattle (fuck off boobs) is probably the best market to be in on the west coast and there is plenty of talent on this side of the country to compete with everyone else.
The key thing is to continue to win and the recruiting will sort itself out (thanks captain obvious). I see some top 10 classes in the future if it continues. Now consistent top 10/5 classes is different story and will need some nattys in order to do that.
Seattle's weather sucks.....
Even in the summertime.
But Sailgating is auce!!!!
Seattle weather sucks in the summertime?
Cuog plz
Obviously you haven't spent many Summers outside of Seattle.
You see in most other places you get more than 10 Sunny Days where the temp exceeds 80 degrees.
Yeah like here in Arizona where we have about 180 days over 80...unfortunately 120 of those are over 100.
Granted, so many pieces like this from the national writers seems to be a worthless as tits on a boar, but how FS is this observation: “The difference between Washington and the other teams on the list is that the Huskies don’t have the overall depth to replace a mass exodus like this.”
Jones, Qualls, Baker, and Ross, are all huge losses; but our “overall depth” in three out of four of those spots is where we have been recruiting and developing players at a very high level- i.e., where you need to be to be competing for Natty’s as Tequilla puts it. Consensus here seems to be DL may actually be better in 2017 with more “heat from the edge”; Gaines is an all-conference level guy and Vea might be a potential all American. Might be some growing pains in the secondary to start, but there’s a ton of depth here- i.e., “DB University”. Has this guy not heard of Rapp? If our non-midget WR recruits all sign LOI’s (and TE’s) we probably get better at WR/TE overall, despite losing Ross. Do your homework Torres – our OL is where the quality depth is lacking compared to other programs; not these other position groups.
I think our stand up edge players (BUCK and SAM) will be better next year. Apologies to any psalm fans out there, but maturation of Potoa'e and Bartlett, plus the infusion of more athletic RS-freshman should significantly aid our pass rush in 2017.
If we keep winning I agree with C___Waffle that the recruiting will figure itself out. But I am still watching to see if Coach Pete and staff CAN recruit with the big boys.. or at least give The Condoms a run for their money! There's definitely enough recruits on the West Coast and I noticed this staff can dip into Texas as well.
The comment on Seattle's weather... DawgShit!! This is not 1977 where a sign on the I-5 said "Last person to leave, please turn-off the lights". We're in the 21st Century now Seattle is in super high demand. Coach Pete mentioned its a great city for everyone, including student-athletes. We need to sell that up rather than cowering about the rain!
Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
Granted, so many pieces like this from the national writers seems to be a worthless as tits on a boar, but how FS is this observation: “The difference between Washington and the other teams on the list is that the Huskies don’t have the overall depth to replace a mass exodus like this.”
Jones, Qualls, Baker, and Ross, are all huge losses; but our “overall depth” in three out of four of those spots is where we have been recruiting and developing players at a very high level- i.e., where you need to be to be competing for Natty’s as Tequilla puts it. Consensus here seems to be DL may actually be better in 2017 with more “heat from the edge”; Gaines is an all-conference level guy and Vea might be a potential all American. Might be some growing pains in the secondary to start, but there’s a ton of depth here- i.e., “DB University”. Has this guy not heard of Rapp? If our non-midget WR recruits all sign LOI’s (and TE’s) we probably get better at WR/TE overall, despite losing Ross. Do your homework Torres – our OL is where the quality depth is lacking compared to other programs; not these other position groups.
I think our stand up edge players (BUCK and SAM) will be better next year. Apologies to any psalm fans out there, but maturation of Potoa'e and Bartlett, plus the infusion of more athletic RS-freshman should significantly aid our pass rush in 2017.
So you're saying we'll improve our heat from the edge?
@Passion by your standards, when was the last time we had a full season of truly great "push up the middle and heat from the edge"? We had better edge in 2014/15 but assuming these seasons don't qualify right?
If we keep winning I agree with C___Waffle that the recruiting will figure itself out. But I am still watching to see if Coach Pete and staff CAN recruit with the big boys.. or at least give The Condoms a run for their money! There's definitely enough recruits on the West Coast and I noticed this staff can dip into Texas as well.
The comment on Seattle's weather... DawgShit!! This is not 1977 where a sign on the I-5 said "Last person to leave, please turn-off the lights". We're in the 21st Century now Seattle is in super high demand. Coach Pete mentioned its a great city for everyone, including student-athletes. We need to sell that up rather than cowering about the rain!
@Passion by your standards, when was the last time we had a full season of truly great "push up the middle and heat from the edge"? We had better edge in 2014/15 but assuming these seasons don't qualify right?
1991 you BUTTHOLE!!!
Seriously, I thought having Kikaha on the edge and Shelton in the middle was fantastic, but we were just too inexperienced in so many other areas on the team.
I also think Feeney and Littleton on the edges last year were a great combo. Again, we just had trouble moving the ball in 2015, plus Qualls was hurt much of last year.
The national media is writing to an audience that by and large only knows about most programs on a cursory basis ... which in general matches the their own understanding.
Go back and look at what Jude was saying before the season regarding UW and their challenges. A lot of what he said was foolish even at the time he said it IF he was paying attention during the open parts of scrimmages, etc. as well had an understanding about football and the rest of the conference.
There are some programs that get the benefit of the doubt because of their track record of performance.
We will likely be better on the DL next year for a number of reasons. We'll have a learning curve in the secondary but that will be aided a bit by the experience in our front 7. My guess is that we'll flex back and forth a little more between a 3-4-4 and the 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 that we were showing the back end of last year. You'll see us with a lot more pressures on the QB to help out the CBs ... but we do have our starting safeties back so that's not a bad thing at all. There will also be a learning curve at WR integrating some of the youth into the program ... but Pettis is back and I expect Aaron Fuller to take a decent leap forward. The challenges will be getting early production from the other WR position (Ty Jones could come in and be an immediate monster) and I do think that we'll see at least initially Hunter Bryant probably split out more of a receiving option (both inside/outside) than interior on the line (leaving that more to the Sample, Dissly, and Ajamu grouping) because his talent as a receiver will probably play better initially than his ability to completely block in the run game.
The reality is that there's no reason to expect us to take a significant step backwards. When you look at our schedule, the challenges are almost entirely lined up over the back half of the schedule and most mostly at home ... that's a positive for us.
If we keep winning I agree with C___Waffle that the recruiting will figure itself out. But I am still watching to see if Coach Pete and staff CAN recruit with the big boys.. or at least give The Condoms a run for their money! There's definitely enough recruits on the West Coast and I noticed this staff can dip into Texas as well.
The comment on Seattle's weather... DawgShit!! This is not 1977 where a sign on the I-5 said "Last person to leave, please turn-off the lights". We're in the 21st Century now Seattle is in super high demand. Coach Pete mentioned its a great city for everyone, including student-athletes. We need to sell that up rather than cowering about the rain!
If we keep winning I agree with C___Waffle that the recruiting will figure itself out. But I am still watching to see if Coach Pete and staff CAN recruit with the big boys.. or at least give The Condoms a run for their money! There's definitely enough recruits on the West Coast and I noticed this staff can dip into Texas as well.
The comment on Seattle's weather... DawgShit!! This is not 1977 where a sign on the I-5 said "Last person to leave, please turn-off the lights". We're in the 21st Century now Seattle is in super high demand. Coach Pete mentioned its a great city for everyone, including student-athletes. We need to sell that up rather than cowering about the rain!
Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6
Disagree. I don't see why Petersen wouldn't be able to cash in on top 15/10 recruiting classes consistently if the program continues to win. Besides LA, Seattle (fuck off boobs) is probably the best market to be in on the west coast and there is plenty of talent on this side of the country to compete with everyone else.
The key thing is to continue to win and the recruiting will sort itself out (thanks captain obvious). I see some top 10 classes in the future if it continues. Now consistent top 10/5 classes is different story and will need some nattys in order to do that.
Regardless of how many early departures we have, I think the article and the analysts are correct in saying Washington is not (yet) at the same level (and level of depth) as the top programs contending for national championships. I know Coach Pete and many others groan about recruiting rankings, but of the last 15 national champions - all of them - they've had Top 10 recruiting years in multiple years. Clemson won a championship because they are doing some elite recruiting as of late. Oregon has been an anomaly with historically lower recruiting rankings, and likely shallower depth. They got steam-rolled by Ohio State because they were bigger, better, and definitely deeper than the Zeroes. If we truly want to contend for NC's we're going to need multiple years of Top 10 or maybe we can get by with Top 15 recruiting classes. My two cents.
I dont disagree with this, however outside of Don James, "we" just aren't a program that is going to get the top national recruits or Top 10 recruiting classes here in the far reaches of the country, though I agree they need to improve and we must be top 15. However, this year is a prove-it year for the system, IMHO. Our offense should improve drastically, and if the D can hold serve through player development, "we" will have all the tools and track record to start pulling in better classes. The kids that are now in high school don't remember Owen 12 but they sure do remember 7-6 7-6 7-6 7-6
Disagree. I don't see why Petersen wouldn't be able to cash in on top 15/10 recruiting classes consistently if the program continues to win. Besides LA, Seattle (fuck off boobs) is probably the best market to be in on the west coast and there is plenty of talent on this side of the country to compete with everyone else.
The key thing is to continue to win and the recruiting will sort itself out (thanks captain obvious). I see some top 10 classes in the future if it continues. Now consistent top 10/5 classes is different story and will need some nattys in order to do that.
Seattle's weather sucks.....
Even in the summertime.
But Sailgating is auce!!!!
Seattle weather sucks in the summertime?
Cuog plz
Obviously you haven't spent many Summers outside of Seattle.
You see in most other places you get more than 10 Sunny Days where the temp exceeds 80 degrees.
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Seriously, I thought having Kikaha on the edge and Shelton in the middle was fantastic, but we were just too inexperienced in so many other areas on the team.
I also think Feeney and Littleton on the edges last year were a great combo. Again, we just had trouble moving the ball in 2015, plus Qualls was hurt much of last year.
Go back and look at what Jude was saying before the season regarding UW and their challenges. A lot of what he said was foolish even at the time he said it IF he was paying attention during the open parts of scrimmages, etc. as well had an understanding about football and the rest of the conference.
There are some programs that get the benefit of the doubt because of their track record of performance.
We will likely be better on the DL next year for a number of reasons. We'll have a learning curve in the secondary but that will be aided a bit by the experience in our front 7. My guess is that we'll flex back and forth a little more between a 3-4-4 and the 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 that we were showing the back end of last year. You'll see us with a lot more pressures on the QB to help out the CBs ... but we do have our starting safeties back so that's not a bad thing at all. There will also be a learning curve at WR integrating some of the youth into the program ... but Pettis is back and I expect Aaron Fuller to take a decent leap forward. The challenges will be getting early production from the other WR position (Ty Jones could come in and be an immediate monster) and I do think that we'll see at least initially Hunter Bryant probably split out more of a receiving option (both inside/outside) than interior on the line (leaving that more to the Sample, Dissly, and Ajamu grouping) because his talent as a receiver will probably play better initially than his ability to completely block in the run game.
The reality is that there's no reason to expect us to take a significant step backwards. When you look at our schedule, the challenges are almost entirely lined up over the back half of the schedule and most mostly at home ... that's a positive for us.
author is pressing in the worst kind of way.