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trump wants the US to be venezuela

dhdawg
dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-vows-insurance-for-everybody-in-obamacare-replacement-plan/2017/01/15/5f2b1e18-db5d-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.a40e18d4b94f

let's see the plan. sounds good in theory, especially with the drug negotiation part.

If he can get something like this through congress (assuming it's not some fraud and actually does what he says it will) good on him. I think he's gonna run into problems.

Comments

  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    Also if certain pharmaceutical companies don't like the pricing of Medicare and Medicaid, they don't have to sell to them.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.

    It would be oddly perverse and hilarious if that happened.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.

    It would be oddly perverse and hilarious if that happened.
    Exactly. I'd even become a Troomp.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.

    It would be oddly perverse and hilarious if that happened.
    Exactly. I'd even become a Troomp.
    Race would be the biggest Troomp of all though.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2017

    2001400ex said:

    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.

    It would be oddly perverse and hilarious if that happened.
    he'd have my vote in 2020. Best troll job ever if he starts supporting that shit
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Why don't they just remove the over 65 provision from Medicare and up the tax rate. Get rid of medical insurance companies. Trump can get it done.

    It would be oddly perverse and hilarious if that happened.
    Exactly. I'd even become a Troomp.
    Seriously, I'd be very excited if it was implemented and worked correctly.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I don't want health insurance from the government, but they can legalize all drugs and not tax or regulate. That would be great.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Venezuelan women >
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter
    Allow insurance companies to cross state lines. Inexpensive catastrophic plans, HSA accounts, tax deductible premiums and HSA savings. Free market capitalism will fix itself.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Allow insurance companies to cross state lines. Inexpensive catastrophic plans, HSA accounts, tax deductible premiums and HSA savings. Free market capitalism will fix itself.

    So Obamacare minus the mandate and add in across state lines. Got it.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063

    Venezuelan women >

    You know why you were flagged.

    image
  • tenndawg
    tenndawg Member Posts: 1,161
    My thoughts exactly - hot Latino women ?

    I'm in
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.
    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    Yes! The disgusting fat bodies need to pay more!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    I'm in.

    Also: tax the fuck out of smokers, alcoholics, and old people.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    I'm in.

    Also: tax the fuck out of smokers, alcoholics, and old people.
    And drug dealers. Hi J!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Allow insurance companies to cross state lines. Inexpensive catastrophic plans, HSA accounts, tax deductible premiums and HSA savings. Free market capitalism will fix itself.

    So Obamacare minus the mandate and add in across state lines. Got it.
    No, you ain't got it!
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    PurpleJ said:

    I don't want health insurance from the government, but they can legalize all drugs and not tax or regulate. That would be great.

    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    The food industry is massively fucked up. A sugar tax may be too far but the products we choose to subsidize are a joke
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    @CFetters_Nacho_Lover true????
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    Allow insurance companies to cross state lines. Inexpensive catastrophic plans, HSA accounts, tax deductible premiums and HSA savings. Free market capitalism will fix itself.

    Sure. That's how it's always worked.

    um, not.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Allow insurance companies to cross state lines. Inexpensive catastrophic plans, HSA accounts, tax deductible premiums and HSA savings. Free market capitalism will fix itself.

    Sure. That's how it's always worked.

    um, not.

    Yes British socialized dentistry is the best business model.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    dhdawg said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I don't want health insurance from the government, but they can legalize all drugs and not tax or regulate. That would be great.

    HFNY said:

    That was one of the reasons why I thought Obamacare was poorly conceived, the penalties were a joke for young people, far too low for political reasons (such as Obama's 2012 reelection).

    An obesity tax would be nice too. The obese cost roughly 3x more to treat than people of relatively normal weight.

    dhdawg said:

    HFNY said:

    No in Venezuela, they seize companies rather than respecting the private sector.

    the only way to assure universal coverage is by providing it through the government, or putting even stiffer penalties on obamacare.

    "socialized medicine" as the GOP likes to call it
    The food industry is massively fucked up. A sugar tax may be too far but the products we choose to subsidize are a joke
    the government shouldn't be picking winners and losers. End subsidies.