Biggest Miss for the TBSers
One of mine was Jermaine Kelly. I loved his tape. He was a playmaker at WR in HS and I thought he would even be a good WR if he wanted to.
Marcus Farria - I thought he was a huge talent. Not a can't miss because he was a known risk but he looked like an explosive edge player to me.
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I don't even think this way ... because I think this current Petersen regime can actually develop players.
So, it's hard to say how Farria, Middleton etc ... would have developed under Petersen's team.
All I know is that they didn't pan out with previous programs ... so it doesn't matter to me.
Woulda, coulda, shouda.
I would bet dollars to donuts that Dante Pettis would have been mediocre under previous administrations ... not a knock on Dante - just a belief.
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Answer the fucking question!animate said:I don't even think this way ... because I think this current Petersen regime can actually develop players.
So, it's hard to say how Farria, Middleton etc ... would have developed under Petersen's team.
All I know is that they didn't pan out with previous programs ... so it doesn't matter to me.
Woulda, coulda, shouda.
I would bet dollars to donuts that Dante Pettis would have been mediocre under previous administrations ... not a knock on Dante - just a belief.
Or Gaines ... Vea ... anyone. -
I was super excited about both of those guys too.RoadDawg55 said:Who is a guy you thought would be great but didn't pan out?
One of mine was Jermaine Kelly. I loved his tape. He was a playmaker at WR in HS and I thought he would even be a good WR if he wanted to.
Marcus Farria - I thought he was a huge talent. Not a can't miss because he was a known risk but he looked like an explosive edge player to me.
I was also really excited about Deontae Cooper, prior to knee injury #1. His highlight tape was ridiculous.
Some others:
James Sample.
Josh Shirley.
Andru Pulu.
Cedric White.
Jayson Bass.
Jason Shelley.
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Erik Kohler
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For me, Eric Kohler. He was rated rediculously high by Scout and I know one mag had him as one of the top 25 high school players in the country.
I know he had trouble staying healthy but he had a really disapointing career.
Also, he looked like a fat skater kid/pen and paper RPG player who probably wore his shirt in the swimming pool -
Sample was not the problem. He got drafted didn't he? They wanted him to play linebacker.AIRWOLF said:
I was super excited about both of those guys too.RoadDawg55 said:Who is a guy you thought would be great but didn't pan out?
One of mine was Jermaine Kelly. I loved his tape. He was a playmaker at WR in HS and I thought he would even be a good WR if he wanted to.
Marcus Farria - I thought he was a huge talent. Not a can't miss because he was a known risk but he looked like an explosive edge player to me.
I was also really excited about Deontae Cooper, prior to knee injury #1. His highlight tape was ridiculous.
Some others:
James Sample.
Josh Shirley.
Andru Pulu.
Cedric White.
Jayson Bass.
Jason Shelley. -
Bradly Roussel
No not really.
Kohler, Montana, Middleton, Pulu -
Unfortunately Coop.
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Dane Crane
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Kavario Middleton
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James Sample? DaFuq? He started for those very good Louisville teams and was drafted pretty highAIRWOLF said:
I was super excited about both of those guys too.RoadDawg55 said:Who is a guy you thought would be great but didn't pan out?
One of mine was Jermaine Kelly. I loved his tape. He was a playmaker at WR in HS and I thought he would even be a good WR if he wanted to.
Marcus Farria - I thought he was a huge talent. Not a can't miss because he was a known risk but he looked like an explosive edge player to me.
I was also really excited about Deontae Cooper, prior to knee injury #1. His highlight tape was ridiculous.
Some others:
James Sample.
Josh Shirley.
Andru Pulu.
Cedric White.
Jayson Bass.
Jason Shelley. -
It's a difficult question to answer because for guys that missed, what were the reasons that they missed? Injury? Off the field stuff? Just sucked?
I think that's why you have to be so focused on always signing as talented of a class as you can because the reality is that there are going to be guys that flame out for one reason or another.
QB is one position that I think you have to also take with a grain of salt because not every QB that you recruit are you expecting to come in and be a starter in your program. It would be nice if that was the case ... but you're just not going to get elite QB after elite QB to come in and sit on the bench when they could be playing elsewhere.
Cyler Miles is a great example of what I meant by asking "why did the player miss?" Miles showed some glimpses in 2013 when he played with Price's injury. Then in 2014, he looked like an absolute mess and then left the team after the season. By all accounts, he had some significant off the field issues. So did he miss because his talent wasn't maximized? Did he miss because he couldn't keep himself clean off the field? Middleton the same way.
In a mature program, it's not really a question that you worry about because it really is next man up. -
RoadDawg55 said:
Answer the fucking question!animate said:I don't even think this way ... because I think this current Petersen regime can actually develop players.
So, it's hard to say how Farria, Middleton etc ... would have developed under Petersen's team.
All I know is that they didn't pan out with previous programs ... so it doesn't matter to me.
Woulda, coulda, shouda.
I would bet dollars to donuts that Dante Pettis would have been mediocre under previous administrations ... not a knock on Dante - just a belief.
Or Gaines ... Vea ... anyone.
Ah, fuck off!
Tui Alailefaleula -
I thought Brostek was going to be really good...
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I didn't realize this was Hardcore Cardinal. I was disappointed because he didn't pan out here.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
James Sample? DaFuq? He started for those very good Louisville teams and was drafted pretty highAIRWOLF said:
I was super excited about both of those guys too.RoadDawg55 said:Who is a guy you thought would be great but didn't pan out?
One of mine was Jermaine Kelly. I loved his tape. He was a playmaker at WR in HS and I thought he would even be a good WR if he wanted to.
Marcus Farria - I thought he was a huge talent. Not a can't miss because he was a known risk but he looked like an explosive edge player to me.
I was also really excited about Deontae Cooper, prior to knee injury #1. His highlight tape was ridiculous.
Some others:
James Sample.
Josh Shirley.
Andru Pulu.
Cedric White.
Jayson Bass.
Jason Shelley.
What do I care how high he got drafted? I'm not his agent. -
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Nathan Rhodes
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Mateaki...I remember Passion loved that guyDHD said:
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String?RaceBannon said:
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Mateaki's picture alone was 4 stars. Can't blame anyone for that one.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Mateaki...I remember Passion loved that guyDHD said: -
Sione Potoa'e
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I expected Quinton Richardson to amount to more. Not sure exactly why, looking back.
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Yep. I thought he would be a great. FML.animate said:RoadDawg55 said:
Answer the fucking question!animate said:I don't even think this way ... because I think this current Petersen regime can actually develop players.
So, it's hard to say how Farria, Middleton etc ... would have developed under Petersen's team.
All I know is that they didn't pan out with previous programs ... so it doesn't matter to me.
Woulda, coulda, shouda.
I would bet dollars to donuts that Dante Pettis would have been mediocre under previous administrations ... not a knock on Dante - just a belief.
Or Gaines ... Vea ... anyone.
Ah, fuck off!
Tui Alailefaleula
That class fucked me in the head for a while. I thought Ty Eriks would be good too.
@89ute - I liked Adam Tate a lot.
I think I thought Albert Tuipolotu would be good.
I thought Casey Bulyca would be good too, but in those years it's so hard to say because we didn't have anyone to develop them. I thought Darrell Daniels would be great and same with Joe Mathis.
One guy I wanted to be good really bad was Darnell Parhms. I loved that he spelled his name Parhms and had the audacity to pronounce it 'Farms'.
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Whenever we beat UCLA for a kid I wince a little bit.bananasnblondes said:For me, Eric Kohler. He was rated rediculously high by Scout and I know one mag had him as one of the top 25 high school players in the country.
I know he had trouble staying healthy but he had a really disapointing career.
Also, he looked like a fat skater kid/pen and paper RPG player who probably wore his shirt in the swimming pool -
This is a tough one - I was sexting with Coker about it earlier. I mean - this guy had some of the shittiest coaching ever in the history of coaching and he was still pretty fucking good.RaceBannon said:
I have a lot of respect for Isaiah. -
This is fun and I decided to go through all the classes in scout, since that was about the time I first joined dawgman. The only issue is that looking back there was just such HORRENDOUS classes, my god, I mean just awful classes. Anyways, here are some of my biggest misses:
Dane Crane was a big one for me.
Hoping Quinten Pounds steps up because I was fairly high on him.
When I really started TBSing closely it was Greyson Gunheim, I thought he was going to be a terror off the edge.
JR Hasty.
I dooged hard on Anthony Boyles.
Curtis Shaw, thought his speed would be insane!
Jermaine Kelly was a big miss.
Emeka Iweka was black and a LT so I figured he'd be Walter Jones.
Kurt Mangum... FML
Johri Fogerson, my O'Dea brother, so I had a blind spot. But in fairness, still one of the best HS players I've seen. I remember when he almost killed Kasen Williams in the state title game when Kasen was a frosh. And Kasen caught the fucking ball.
Tim Tucker, BIG TIME MIK!!! DIAF COKER.
Victor Burnett, god.
Corey Waller... I want to die.
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High school stats and all that are bullshit but any QB that goes 1-9 is a red flag.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is a tough one - I was sexting with Coker about it earlier. I mean - this guy had some of the shittiest coaching ever in the history of coaching and he was still pretty fucking good.RaceBannon said:
I have a lot of respect for Isaiah.
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@CokeGreaterThanPepsi that screen to Johri against LSU tho. What a beautiful drive. 3rd best Sark era moment after USC in 09 and the Holiday Bowl.
