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NFL Pro Bowlers listed by their high school recruiting stars

Yeah the pro bowl is one of the biggest jokes in pro sports but still interesting to see where some of the top talent came from.

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Tom Brady was a 0*
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    AIRWOLF said:

    This article comes out every year and every year people draw the wrong conclusions.

    It is a great way to separate people who have even the vaguest understanding of the maths from the rest of the retards that populate our cuntry.
    Bingo.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Tom Brady was a 0*

    Good to see I had the same rating coming out of high school as Tom Brady
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    This article comes out every year and every year people draw the wrong conclusions.

    The only valid contrarian point to this is that there is plenty of talent available that isn't 4 and 5 star.

    It also shows how different recruiting used to be. No DL with size like Michael Bennett would be not rated if they committed to a school like A&M. There has been a star inflation as recruiting gained popularity.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    DBU - Marcus Peters
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Better than Garnett. It doesn't sting too bad because our coaching still would have sucked, but he was a great player at Stanford and now in the pros.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    AIRWOLF said:

    This article comes out every year and every year people draw the wrong conclusions.

    It is a great way to separate people who have even the vaguest understanding of the maths from the rest of the retards that populate our cuntry.
    It's a great way to get more time to get and develop your own guys and tell the media a player's stars don't matter
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    But we did win our conference and are in the CFP
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    Jesus fucking Christ you take this to an extreme.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    Jesus fucking Christ you take this to an extreme.
    DDY is a known TBS Extremist. He's on the no fly list because of it.
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    Jesus fucking Christ you take this to an extreme.
    DDY is a known TBS Extremist. He's on the no fly list because of it.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    Jesus fucking Christ you take this to an extreme.
    DDY is a known TBS Extremist. He's on the no fly list because of it.
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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    The 91' team was actually an unharelded class. Brunell was was considered to be medicore out of high school. Dude played almost a decade in the NFL.

    Remember steve emperman was only a two star.

    Mike lustyk was recruited by every d1 school in the entire country. Number 1 reated D lineman and sucked ass...



  • tvoie
    tvoie Member Posts: 996

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    We're getting there but still a long ways to go.

    Having guys like Murphy, Eifler, Levi O and the other highly rated guys redshirt to get stronger, faster and smarter is going in the right direction.

    It's just that Alabama does this on a regular basis. Reloads. 4 and 5 star talent, 2 deep, waiting their turn. They accept the culture of football success there as the Saban way.

    We're about 3-4 years away.

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    animate said:

    We're getting there but still a long ways to go.

    Having guys like Murphy, Eifler, Levi O and the other highly rated guys redshirt to get stronger, faster and smarter is going in the right direction.

    It's just that Alabama does this on a regular basis. Reloads. 4 and 5 star talent, 2 deep, waiting their turn. They accept the culture of football success there as the Saban way.

    We're about 3-4 years away.

    Revisit this on January 1st. Winning the PAC 12 and making the playoff isn't a "long way to go." It means you're one of the best teams in CFB.

    We have one great season and you dumb fucks go from "ranked in the top 25 every year, conference title every 3-4 years, competing for a natty 2-3 times a decade" to "We aren't Alabama."

    Alabama is on a historical run. They have won 4 of the past 8 titles. 5 of 9 if they win this year. We aren't going to be Alabama. I would love to be, but c'mon. Nobody else is either.

    That said, we can beat Alabama this year. I swear we could win and you TBSers would still act like we had a long way to go.

    So fuck your TBS. I hope we get every 5 star recruit too. When we don't, keep developing 3 stars like Sidney Jones, Greg Gaines, Vea, Eldrenkamp, Victor, Bierria, and Pettis.
    Agree. UW will never be bama. But that said I'd give this uw team a 50% chance against anyone else on a neutral field.
    If stanford browning shows up Saturday this is a close game
  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098

    This article comes out every year and every year people draw the wrong conclusions.

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    tvoie said:

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
    This is true to a point. I'll add that kids get 4/5 start ratings cause they are freaks of nature mostly. Sure we can recruit a 3 star and coach him up and give him some strength and conditioning. But he still wasn't a freak athletically. On the flip side, a lot of 4/5 kids are head cases and not smart. At UW, we'll never get a ton of 5 star, this year we got a lot of 4 star kids. We have to hit on those and bring up the 3 star kids. We just have less room for error than a Bama does. But Petersen seems to do a great job vetting kids. Where I always felt Sark was recruiting directly from the Scout website.
  • tvoie
    tvoie Member Posts: 996
    2001400ex said:

    tvoie said:

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
    This is true to a point. I'll add that kids get 4/5 start ratings cause they are freaks of nature mostly. Sure we can recruit a 3 star and coach him up and give him some strength and conditioning. But he still wasn't a freak athletically. On the flip side, a lot of 4/5 kids are head cases and not smart. At UW, we'll never get a ton of 5 star, this year we got a lot of 4 star kids. We have to hit on those and bring up the 3 star kids. We just have less room for error than a Bama does. But Petersen seems to do a great job vetting kids. Where I always felt Sark was recruiting directly from the Scout website.
    I agree with you, but this is why UW can't miss on the 5 star talent in state...ever. And sadly, UW keeps losing out. As far as head cases, often times the best ones are so good at football that they suck at life. It's the coaching staffs job to try and keep these types on the straight and narrow. But the reward typically outweighs the risk.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    2001400ex said:

    tvoie said:

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
    I always felt Sark was recruiting directly from the Scout website.
    I distinctly remember seeing a picture of a Sark-era UW coaches meeting with a print out from Scout laying on the table of eventual UCLA RB Jordan James.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Mad_Son said:

    2001400ex said:

    tvoie said:

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
    I always felt Sark was recruiting directly from the Scout website.
    I distinctly remember seeing a picture of a Sark-era UW coaches meeting with a print out from Scout laying on the table of eventual UCLA RB Jordan Jordon James.
    Learn to spell you fuckstick.
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223

    Mad_Son said:

    2001400ex said:

    tvoie said:

    animate said:

    Seeing DeCastro's name still hurts

    Nah.

    The definition of hurt is one that got away and did well despite Petersen recruiting him after this year.

    Even then you can't get them all. So whatever
    Fucking loser menatality bullshit. You want to win like Bama? Better coach like Bama (I think we are okay there) and recruit like Bama (not even close).

    If you tards think missing guys like Fozzy, DJ, IPM and Wyatt Davis is no big deal then I suggest you go root for Western Michigan to win the MAC.

    In big time college football, having two-deeps stocked with kids like Fozzy, AVT, Wyatt Davis, Jay Tufele and DJ Johnson is what we will need to compete with serious programs.

    If you think coaching up half your roster of 3-star kids (who should be 2-stars) like Damion Turpin and BBK will result in dominance you are a motherfucking idiot. Sure, we can be a glorified Boise and beat the tallest midgets into the ground like we did this year... but if the goal is to be regulars at the top of our conference and the CFB playoff, our recruiting can't be anything like what it looks like over the past 5 years.
    ^ This! Yes it's extreme, but it's truth. Getting the highest rated players matters. There are exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions because statistically they don't pan out nearly as often as 5 star or high 4 star players. It's not complicated. Rationalizing why we don't have to have these players is silly. We need them to compete for national championships. That's what we all want, right?
    I always felt Sark was recruiting directly from the Scout website.
    I distinctly remember seeing a picture of a Sark-era UW coaches meeting with a print out from Scout laying on the table of eventual UCLA RB Jordan Jordon James.
    Learn to spell you fuckstick.
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