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YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
I cannot recommend Allen Barra's bio of Bear Bryant, The Last Coach enough. Easily one of the best biographies and sports related books I've ever read...

I hope that recommending a non Marshall Stalin authored title does not result in the NKVD arresting me and shipping me off to the Siberian gulag.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

    Bear Bryant kicked everyone's ass.
    Bama has been kicking everyone's ass for the better part of 70 years.

    Fin.

    Pretty accurate, but there were a few bad years in the late 60's culminating in the 1970 USC plungering of 'Bama in Birmingham, and they ended up desegregating the team finally in 1971.
    Every blue blood has down periods, but I don't think any other programs has had as few or had them as short a duration as Bama.

    National Titles:

    (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015)

    So yeah they sucked (and that is relative because there were probably MANY top 5 finishes in their "off" years) from the mid 40's to the late 50's, the 80's, and the late 90's to the mid 2000's. 16 NC's covering 8 of the last 10 decades. Best sustained success there is, and it isn't close (USC, ND, Oklahomo, and everyone else included).
  • CcTider
    CcTider Member Posts: 24
    I'm still pissed about the 41 claim. One of my uncles tries to say out makes up for times we were screwed, like 66. But I don't agree. 41 gives the other questionable ones a leg to stand on.
  • Crimsonite1
    Crimsonite1 Member Posts: 98

    Swaye said:

    Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

    Bear Bryant kicked everyone's ass.
    Bama has been kicking everyone's ass for the better part of 70 years.

    Fin.

    Pretty accurate, but there were a few bad years in the late 60's culminating in the 1970 USC plungering of 'Bama in Birmingham, and they ended up desegregating the team finally in 1971.
    Actually Bama had a black player on the team in that game. He just didn't get to play. But then that wouldn't make for a charismatic BS story about Sam Bam Cunningham desegregating Bryants team, would it?
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    CcTider said:

    Gladstone said:

    My favorite is 1973 when they lost to an undefeated Notre Dame team in the Sugar Bowl and still claim the national championship.

    We don't claim anything. They gave it to us before the bowls. That's how they did it back then. We were also fucked out of several outer titles.

    If you want to talk shit about bogus titles, then the answer is 1941. That was complete bullshit. The rest are legit by the rules at the time. They've since been changed, which most agree is a good thing. But if you want to take a few away from us, fuck it, go for it. We've got plenty to spare.
    UW has its share of shady MNC claims as well.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    TTJ said:

    CcTider said:

    Gladstone said:

    My favorite is 1973 when they lost to an undefeated Notre Dame team in the Sugar Bowl and still claim the national championship.

    We don't claim anything. They gave it to us before the bowls. That's how they did it back then. We were also fucked out of several outer titles.

    If you want to talk shit about bogus titles, then the answer is 1941. That was complete bullshit. The rest are legit by the rules at the time. They've since been changed, which most agree is a good thing. But if you want to take a few away from us, fuck it, go for it. We've got plenty to spare.
    UW has its share of shady MNC claims as well.
    Nothing shady about '84. Hope that helps.

    /boobstriggerwarning
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Gladstone said:

    TTJ said:

    CcTider said:

    Gladstone said:

    My favorite is 1973 when they lost to an undefeated Notre Dame team in the Sugar Bowl and still claim the national championship.

    We don't claim anything. They gave it to us before the bowls. That's how they did it back then. We were also fucked out of several outer titles.

    If you want to talk shit about bogus titles, then the answer is 1941. That was complete bullshit. The rest are legit by the rules at the time. They've since been changed, which most agree is a good thing. But if you want to take a few away from us, fuck it, go for it. We've got plenty to spare.
    UW has its share of shady MNC claims as well.
    Nothing shady about '84. Hope that helps.

    /boobstriggerwarning
    Win your conference.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    Swaye said:

    Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

    Bear Bryant kicked everyone's ass.
    Bama has been kicking everyone's ass for the better part of 70 years.

    Fin.

    Pretty accurate, but there were a few bad years in the late 60's culminating in the 1970 USC plungering of 'Bama in Birmingham, and they ended up desegregating the team finally in 1971.
    Actually Bama had a black player on the team in that game. He just didn't get to play. But then that wouldn't make for a charismatic BS story about Sam Bam Cunningham desegregating Bryants team, would it?
    @Crimsonite1,

    Is that the proverbial, "but I've got a black friend!1!!1" southern defense?

    Asking for a friend.
  • Crimsonite1
    Crimsonite1 Member Posts: 98
    Maybe. Actually he turned out to be a pretty good player. But he was a freshman and freshmen didn't play then.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,264

    Bear Bryant was a fag

    And your mother swallows and takes it up the ass, which is why I'm keeping her around a little longer.
    Wow....that is really mean spirited.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Fuck it, we are goint to plunger Bama.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited December 2016
    Bama does not have Polynesian dudes on the defensive interior. Our defense is more multicultural. Gaines and verr kirven, the polys and blacks. College football is very racially segregated. Rich white guys in D3, working class in state guys in d2.
  • Crimsonite1
    Crimsonite1 Member Posts: 98
    HuskyJW said:

    Bear Bryant was a fag

    And your mother swallows and takes it up the ass, which is why I'm keeping her around a little longer.
    Wow....that is really mean spirited.
    Something tells me he's use to it.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,584 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2016

    Gladstone said:

    TTJ said:

    CcTider said:

    Gladstone said:

    My favorite is 1973 when they lost to an undefeated Notre Dame team in the Sugar Bowl and still claim the national championship.

    We don't claim anything. They gave it to us before the bowls. That's how they did it back then. We were also fucked out of several outer titles.

    If you want to talk shit about bogus titles, then the answer is 1941. That was complete bullshit. The rest are legit by the rules at the time. They've since been changed, which most agree is a good thing. But if you want to take a few away from us, fuck it, go for it. We've got plenty to spare.
    UW has its share of shady MNC claims as well.
    Nothing shady about '84. Hope that helps.

    /boobstriggerwarning
    Win your conference.
    You mean like Ohio State? ;)
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Swaye said:

    Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

    Bear Bryant kicked everyone's ass.
    Bama has been kicking everyone's ass for the better part of 70 years.

    Fin.

    Pretty accurate, but there were a few bad years in the late 60's culminating in the 1970 USC plungering of 'Bama in Birmingham, and they ended up desegregating the team finally in 1971.
    Actually Bama had a black player on the team in that game. He just didn't get to play. But then that wouldn't make for a charismatic BS story about Sam Bam Cunningham desegregating Bryants team, would it?
    The anti-PC police are twice as stupid as the PC police by virtue of trying to outdo retards and being a bunch of try hard white dudes.

    ONE WHOLE BLACK?!? WOW!!!

    I'm sure getting blasted by USC had nothing to do with recruiting and playing a MAJORITY of black people.

    Fucking hell.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    All I know is that UW and Alabama have a shared history of making up national championships that don't actually exist, and both played a role in chasing Mike Price out of the coaching profession.

    I'm pretty sure Alabama's administration is run by Nazis, UW's is run by Commies.

    So they've got that going for them, which is nice.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited December 2016

    Bear Bryant was a fag

    And your mother swallows and takes it up the ass, which is why I'm keeping her around a little longer.
    STAY

    https://youtu.be/-uv_WGEHr4I
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

    Bear Bryant kicked everyone's ass.
    Bama has been kicking everyone's ass for the better part of 70 years.

    Fin.

    Pretty accurate, but there were a few bad years in the late 60's culminating in the 1970 USC plungering of 'Bama in Birmingham, and they ended up desegregating the team finally in 1971.
    Actually Bama had a black player on the team in that game. He just didn't get to play. But then that wouldn't make for a charismatic BS story about Sam Bam Cunningham desegregating Bryants team, would it?
    The anti-PC police are twice as stupid as the PC police by virtue of trying to outdo retards and being a bunch of try hard white dudes.

    ONE WHOLE BLACK?!? WOW!!!

    I'm sure getting blasted by USC had nothing to do with recruiting and playing a MAJORITY of black people.

    Fucking hell.
    Most kids today have no idea of REAL history. The Bear and Wallace were in a decade long dance over the issue. Bear always comes out ahead because most people think he really did want to integrate before the USC game happened, but he didn't.

    Wallace was afraid of Bear's popularity and vice versa. The USC game was a huge a factor as portrayed because it got Bama fan to say what the fuck let's do it. That tipped the scales.

    Bama was voted out of a National Championship in the mid 60's because of the SEC segregation, but that just pissed them off. They still though their white boys were better.

    The best part of the doc is when the local Blacks said they gathered outside the stadium and rooted for USC.

    Big Ten and Pacific Coast teams had quotas for years and any Husky fan feeling holier than thou might want to google Jim Owens
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    AZDuck said:

    All I know is that UW and Alabama have a shared history of making up national championships that don't actually exist, and both played a role in chasing Mike Price out of the coaching profession.

    I'm pretty sure Alabama's administration is run by Nazis, UW's is run by Commies.

    So they've got that going for them, which is nice.

    Aww. The Duck sounds bitter.

    Don't be bitter - just tongue my shitter.