Oregon = Dumpster Fire
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Yep. Phil Knight stopped caring about football and started trying to cure cancer. Kilkenny made it very clear that Phil wouldn't be involved and whatever they were planning needed to be within the athletic budget.
So the accountant strung the search along until they were the only Power 5 without a coach and got Slingblade 2.0 on the cheap.
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Whoever posted the "Lucy holding the football" picture in another thread hit it out of the park. The delusional, new money Duck fans all expected Chip to jump at the chance to come back and lead them back to glory. And in the rare chance that Chip couldn't make it, the line of elite coaches banging at the door would reach around Autzen. They are in complete shock and entering depression with the Taggart hire.
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"The Oregon football program is imploding before our very eyes"
-Race Bannon, one week into the Chip Kelly era (Sept 2009) -
.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around.
There's a difference when you go 2-10, 7-5, 7-5 at one school and then 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 10-2 at another vs the Sark 7-6 paradigm.
He may not be great, but Taggart at least has shown the ability to improve programs. Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level, but he might stop the downward fall, and put us back to one great hire away from winning conference championships again.
The way I look at it, is that Taggart looks to be a pretty solid upgrade from Helfrich. -
maybe?greenblood said:Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level
you're really trying to talk yourself into this hire. -
I always knew I would be right I just had no idea it would happen so soonDerekJohnson said:"The Oregon football program is imploding before our very eyes"
-Race Bannon, one week into the Chip Kelly era (Sept 2009) -
Yeah you might be right, and he could turn into Don James/Chip Kelly. My bigger point was Oregon is taking a huge gamble, because it is just as likely he flames out as is successful, and that is the coach hiring model UW used quite unsuccessfully for 20 years after James until they lucked into Peterman - a proven winner. I am surprised they ate such a huge buyout on an unproven guy. This is straight up UW AD Sark shit. Throw shit at a wall and see if it sticks. Oregon was just playing for a NC two years ago, and now they are reduced to going after a guy nobody has ever heard of? Seems odd the AD would can Slingblade without a sure fire winner on deck. Basically, Oregon just did what loser programs do, and that surprised me a bit because I thought they finally decided to be winners.greenblood said:.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around.
There's a difference when you go 2-10, 7-5, 7-5 at one school and then 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 10-2 at another vs the Sark 7-6 paradigm.
He may not be great, but Taggart at least has shown the ability to improve programs. Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level, but he might stop the downward fall, and put us back to one great hire away from winning conference championships again.
The way I look at it, is that Taggart looks to be a pretty solid upgrade from Helfrich. -
were they downtrodden?greenblood said:.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around. .
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Don't waste time looking at duck boards. In summary, fan reactions are abysmal. 'Boo', 'nightmare', 'bitterly disappointed', 'WTF', etc.
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Here is where I am optimistic about this hire; people with no interest like the guy.
When Chip told the AD to hire Sling it was because he didn't want the coachig staff replaced. That's actually the main reason he came back for year four.
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
Great chance he sucks or really is Sling 2.0, but he might be a very good coach as well. Like every coach you will know what you have at the end of year two. Here is to the 2019 season...Fuck that sounds Doogish. -
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO. -
Yep. Coaches protect their own. Doesn't mean he sucks. Doesn't mean he doesn't
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Before his golf addiction he probably was. Like I wrote in another poast if a coach doesn't need to win anymore (rich as fuck with guaranteed contracts) how hard do they still work?whlinder said:
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO.
I dealt with Mike Stoops personally a lot and I can tell you after they lost that OT game to Oregon in 2009 he never worked longer than an 8 hour day. He knew it was hopeless, he was rich, and one of his brothers would swoop him up after to be a coordinator.
Coaching is so much about motivation. You could tell Ty didn't give a shit after ND fired him. -
Mosster47 said:
Before his golf addiction he probably was. Like I wrote in another poast if a coach doesn't need to win anymore (rich as fuck with guaranteed contracts) how hard do they still work?whlinder said:
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO.
I dealt with Mike Stoops personally a lot and I can tell you after they lost that OT game to Oregon in 2009 he never worked longer than an 8 hour day. He knew it was hopeless, he was rich, and one of his brothers would swoop him up after to be a coordinator.
Coaching is so much about motivation. You could tell Ty didn't give a shit after ND hired him. -
Let's also not forget "the quiet genius"whlinder said:
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO. -
Mosster47 said:
Here is where I am optimistic about this hire; people with no interest like the guy.
When Chip told the AD to hire Sling it was because he didn't want the coachig staff replaced. That's actually the main reason he came back for year four.Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David ShawNAACP, Shaun Alexander, and Rosa Parks all think Ty Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
Great chance he sucks or really is Sling 2.0, but he might be a very good coach as well. Like every coach you will know what you have at the end of year two. Here is to the 2019 season...Fuck that sounds Doogish. -
DPOTD!!!!
Oregon hired a coach who has inherited 2 dumpster fires and turned them both into 10 win teams in 4 years. While Oregon sucked last year, and it will be a decent rebuild, there's no reason He couldn't get them back to that in Eugene. -
WASHINGTON and the Beav are no longer gimmes, hth.salemcoog said:DPOTD!!!!
Oregon hired a coach who has inherited 2 dumpster fires and turned them both into 10 win teams in 4 years. While Oregon sucked last year, and it will be a decent rebuild, there's no reason He couldn't get them back to that in Eugene. -
Western Kentucky never made it past 7-5 with Taggart.salemcoog said:DPOTD!!!!
Oregon hired a coach who has inherited 2 dumpster fires and turned them both into 10 win teams in 4 years. While Oregon sucked last year, and it will be a decent rebuild, there's no reason He couldn't get them back to that in Eugene.
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Time to bring out the D word?salemcoog said:DPOTD!!!!
Oregon hired a coach who has inherited 2 dumpster fires and turned them both into 10 win teams in 4 years. While Oregon sucked last year, and it will be a decent rebuild, there's no reason He couldn't get them back to that in Eugene. -
Your 3rd paragraph reads like something off of Dawgman when Ty was hired.greenblood said:.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around.
There's a difference when you go 2-10, 7-5, 7-5 at one school and then 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 10-2 at another vs the Sark 7-6 paradigm.
He may not be great, but Taggart at least has shown the ability to improve programs. Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level, but he might stop the downward fall, and put us back to one great hire away from winning conference championships again.
The way I look at it, is that Taggart looks to be a pretty solid upgrade from Helfrich. -
I'm pretty sure I said this exact same thing about Tyronegreenblood said:.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around.
There's a difference when you go 2-10, 7-5, 7-5 at one school and then 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 10-2 at another vs the Sark 7-6 paradigm.
He may not be great, but Taggart at least has shown the ability to improve programs. Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level, but he might stop the downward fall, and put us back to one great hire away from winning conference championships again.
The way I look at it, is that Taggart looks to be a pretty solid upgrade from Helfrich. -
Nobody knows if Taggart, Rhule, Fleck, Riley, Frost, Harsin, etc will be any good.
All are gambles. All have the odds against them.
If you aren't a blue blood program and can't steal a head coach with established success at the highest level then you have to gamble.
The key is to fire your coach as soon as you know he isn't the one. UO did that part right. Niw they have to LIPO for 2-3 years and then probably spin again. -
The day they announced the hiring of Willingham, Kirk Herbstreit said, and I quote, "Washington, welcome back to college football!"whlinder said:
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO. -
I might borrow this phrase if you don't mindRaceBannon said:Yep. Coaches protect their own. Doesn't mean he sucks. Doesn't mean he doesn't
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Thats where youre wrong duckis. Helfrich has sophomores returning across line, talent across bored at WR, running back, TE and the 2nd best freshman signal caller in the conference. Herbert is going to be great. UO ficked themselves by firing helfrich.greenblood said:.500 record I get Swaye, but keep in mind, he took the reigns on two very bad programs and within four years turned each of them around.
There's a difference when you go 2-10, 7-5, 7-5 at one school and then 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 10-2 at another vs the Sark 7-6 paradigm.
He may not be great, but Taggart at least has shown the ability to improve programs. Maybe he doesn't take us to Chip's level, but he might stop the downward fall, and put us back to one great hire away from winning conference championships again.
The way I look at it, is that Taggart looks to be a pretty solid upgrade from Helfrich.
Some reason you and the delusional fans, and administration, think Oregon is a national power that doesnt rebuild..."WE are mighty oregon, we dont have time to rebuild. We reload..." Now look at the mess Mullens put you in. His presence at the playoff committee is the closest you buttfuckerds will get to the playoff in the next decade.
Although Fulmer achieved a lot more than any pathetic duck coach ever has, the situations are similar in 1 way... In that good coaches are hard to find, and helfrich was a good coach. Thats the only similarity though. Tennessee hasnt found a coach in over a decade after dumping a man with an impressive long term SEC record after 2 bad years. Boy id imagine the vols fans still want him back.
There's gonna be 35k "fans" in Autzen wishing Helfrich was still there next year. (35k will be average attendance going forward). The rest will be up on Montlake looking to poach a ticket to watch a winner. Helfrich would have had UO right back in the discussion in 2 years, by rebuilding a young team, a slew of talent and future stud to run his offense.
Oregon has never played defense so all he had to do was score points, and Herbert will have no problem doing that going forward.
Speaking of poaching, I wonder if there's any junk OKG's in your recruiting class to send up here. Prolly none who can play at the dawgs level. Enjoy the cactus bowl in 2 years with Haggard roaming the sidelines wondering why he took a job in this league. -
Yeah, because hiring an all-offense, no-defense head coach is the way to win in the pac12.
Signed,
#1 Washington
#2 Colorado
#3 USC
#4 Utah
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Haden, theyve been to 2 title games with offense no defense. Have you watched troy dye this year? oregon has a lot of young kids like him. Oregon has played just enough defense to win the pac12 multiple times to go along with title games, and will do the same when their young guys come back the next 2 years.PatHadenFS said:Yeah, because hiring an all-offense, no-defense head coach is the way to win in the pac12.
Signed,
#1 Washington
#2 Colorado
#3 USC
#4 Utah
Take off the Rich Sherman jersey, turn on a college football game or two, dial in...check back -
Michael Wilbon carried Ty's water for YEARS on PTI.DerekJohnson said:
The day they announced the hiring of Willingham, Kirk Herbstreit said, and I quote, "Washington, welcome back to college football!"whlinder said:
There were a line of people telling Washington how great a coach Ty was when we hired him too.Mosster47 said:
Jim, Jack, and John Harbaugh, Tony Dungy, and David Shaw all think Willie is a great coach. That's one great football family and literaly the only two legitimately great black football coaches maybe ever giving an endorsement.
I don't know anything about him. Whatever. Could be good, could suck. LIPO.
I loved reading Wilbon growing up but him supporting Ty incessantly made me hate that fucker. FTG
