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Has Ken Griswold admitted he underestimated Petermen as a recruiter?

Eklund freely admits he was dead wrong about this staff's ability to land highly ranked classes.

Will Guzzler do the same?
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    this isn't the wac anymore
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    Comes to a traditional Pac power school as a sleeping giant program, works his method and it's getting great results in only the third year.

    And people doubt that recruiting won't follow? Are people that stupid? Oops...

    He didn't necessarily get average classes at Boise. He got the best ones in ther conference even though it's Boise, Idaho. Pete knows how to recruit and run a program. His actual game day coaching is his weak point.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    pointing out the strength's and weaknesses of a coach is being a nega?

    Kim101
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    Agree totally with this.

    The funny part to me is that Sark had no idea to either look for this or what to look for and recruiting was the 2nd most important part of being on the road recruiting...second to partying in hotels on someone else's dime.
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    AIRWOLF said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    animate said:

    Why is this even an issue? Petersen landed average classes at Boise and then coaches them up to perform at an unbelievable level.

    It has got to be at least partly that. And his assistants are clearly good teachers of technique. But I also think he and his staff are really good at evaluation.

    Any idiot (okay, maybe not Eklund) can identify raw athletic talent. But Petersen seems to be very good at figuring out which guys are going to be able to translate that talent into becoming superior football players. And most of that has to be about attitude and coachability. Which is where the OKG thing comes in.

    OKG never meant diamond-in-the-rough, white guy, or 2-star recruit. It means guys who give a shit and want to get better. Guys who really love football and not just being recruited. And guess what, there are 4-star and even 5-star OKGs. Boise State just had no shot at landing them. Washington does.
    This reminds me of the way Pete Carroll and his staff evaluates, i also think Peterman evaluates their mental make-up.
    We all pitch you shit, but this comment is spot on.
    I wouldn't be suprised if they had a sports physcolgist on staff that evals recruits on visits or whatever.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    Good to see it just took one game for Roadie to be back on the nega train

    How so? That's some dogman shit. It's like saying. Browning is a good QB but his arm strength is his weakness.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

    huh?

    image
    Selfie?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

    huh?

    image
    Selfie?
    Quite honestly it's actually not me, but don't tell @Swaye that...
    Some dreams die hard. Get it? I'm clever.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    As we know, you can be all airport and look like Adonis but when the wind is blowing and the rain is falling and its Wednesday practice and you hurt like hell do you love the game enough to power through?

    No
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    edited November 2016
    Lot of twisting going on out here. We're tired of it...
  • pat_hm
    pat_hm Member Posts: 941
    As far as Kim's concerned until Petersen lands a Donny Mateaki type he hasn't done shit.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Can Pete go into a living room in Watts and pull a 5 star RB?
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    pat_hm said:

    As far as Kim's concerned until Petersen lands a Donny Mateaki type he hasn't done shit.

    To be far Donny is 300 pound all muscle and recently benched 2 reps of 500 pounds. He just got hurt in college dude would have been a beast
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Can Pete go into a living room in Watts and pull a 5 star RB?

    While Willis is gunning down a drug dealer next door?